To email the John Lewis Nursery Advisers...

[JemL]

...I was wandering around the John Lewis nursery section with DS2 with some vouchers to spend . A pregnant lady was going round the department with a Nursery adviser, presumably to purchase some large items, she had a clipboard and was writing down order numbers, etc. I overheard them talking by one of those glider / recliner chairs - the adviser was obviously trying to "sell" it by talking how great it was for nursing, etc and then going on about the great thing about the chairs is that baby can doze off in your arms, (fine) and that the mum can have a sleep at the same time as it is so comfortable to sleep holding the baby in these chairs.

Now, I know she is a sales assistant, not a health care professional, and that the person she was talking to isn't going to take her word as gospel, but AIBU to think that they shouldn't be giving out a sales pitch which directly contradicts all safe sleeping advice?! Especially when they set themselves up as "Nursery Advisors" experts, etc.

yabu

sorry

actually yes, i do think it's worth e-mailing them about it

I would be interested in their response if you did email but I wouldn't say anything to criticise the individual but the advice given. BTW we sat on one of those chairs in JL when I was expecting our first. They are lovely but too ££££ and the one from Argos was fine, .

Yanbu. Definitely email them.

but you cant roll over and squash the baby in a chair

you can on a sofabut not on a rockingchair

what is the problem with feeding sitting up? Don't most of us feed that way?

I feed DD sitting up and i feel myself dropping off - i know i deffo fell asleep feeding DS a few times as he was such a slow feeder

no, you can't, but you could lean forward and smother them (like the lady on the plane)
or you could drop them

all in all it really isn't safe

I don't think its ever advisable to fall asleep holding a small baby.

I'm thinking of getting one of those so I can fall asleep with NewBaby.

After two, I just know there will be times when baby will not sleep without me. When they're sick, for example. It's surely safer in a chair than in bed.

I don't know about emailing them as personally I'm a bit dubious about the advice. That's me though.

those chairs make me feel very travelsick.

somebody pls post safe co-sleeping leaflet, i can't remember who produced it.

I did not know that hana.

I'm basing my opinion on the fact that the sleeping advice recently published and heavily touted is based on stats involving parents who smoke or are inebriated.

Plus when they're sick, I'd rather they were upright and sans duvet.

crankytwanky, the recent research published put all sleeping with a baby into the "bedsharing" or "co-sleeping" category.

this means all the cases of falling asleep on a sofa or chair.
bed-sharing following good guidelines was actually as safe as putting baby in a cot.
the vast majority of infant deaths had occured, as you say, when parents had been drinking or smoking, or when they had fallen asleep on a sofa or chair!

it is NOT safer than feeding lying down in bed.
your baby could just as easily be sick in his or her own cot...

and some of the parents had said that they were only feeding babies on the sofa/chair because they had been told that co-sleepign was not safe

Sure, but it's just easier when they're blowing babychunks in the night to have them upright on your belly.
I'm just worried about them choking on vomit, and don't want to change our sheets 5 times a night!

You never really sleep properly like that IMO. Granted, if you are super-tired you are more likely to smother a baby, but I've always been on tenterhooks in situations like that iyswim.

ditto!

Seriously, though, how many people feed in bed in the 'safe' way described above - with no duvet or pillows, baby between you and the wall? I would imagine hardly any. Given that, you are probably as safe in the JL chair falling asleep. I was unable to stop myself drifting at times, but in those chairs I would imagine you'd lean back and rest your head against the, um, headrest, so the chance of you going forward and squashing the baby is low. Also can't imagine you would easily drop them.

I have to say that I read the new feeding and sleepign guidance with increasing incredulity these days - it must be written by people who have never experienced what it is like to be woken up repeatedly to breastfeed at night. Surely anyone who's ever breast fed at night has nodded off on the job, however and wherever they are?

it's a shop not a mutha's commune they exist to make profit.doh!yabu

frankly dont be dumb enough to base your parenting on products or sales advice

nursery adviser = salaried sales adviser knowledgeable of in store stock wishing to make sale

Some people take this shop workers advice as gospel though if they have no experience of babies and have no idea about things.

tbh in the middle of the night it wouldn't be the jl advice that makes her fall asleep