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...to reclaim my fine and points. Moral dilemma really.

31 replies

duchesse · 04/12/2009 09:57

In 2005 I accidentally sped at 38mph past a speed camera at midnight. It was in a village on the A35 in Dorset where you enter the village on a downhill and round a bend. The fact that a village is coming up is not obvious, and if you're not familiar with the route, you round the bend, are faced with a 30 mph limit sign and a couple of tens of metres later, a speed camera, which I reckon is a pure money spinner for the police. Other villages seem to be able to give ample advance warning about a reduced speed limit coming up. Anyway I was pootling along at 40 on the A35, rounded the corner and was caught by the camera. Cue three points and a £60 fine. Fair enough.

A couple of years later, there was a review of the siting of camera, and it came to light that there was a mistake in the registration of the location of the camera. Not that the camera was in the wrong place, but that it was misdescribed at the county council. So thousands of people suddenly became eligible to reclaim their points and fines.

I've now been sent a letter by Dorset traffic cameras asking me if I want to reclaim my fine and points.

And I'm in a moral dilemma about it. On the one hand, I did speed past the camera. On the other hand, the camera seems to have sited deliberately to catch people who don't know the route- ie not local people. So, good people of MN, to reclaim or not to reclaim?

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TerryWogansCockandBaubles · 04/12/2009 10:01

Reclaim

FimbleHobbs · 04/12/2009 10:03

I would reclaim.

SoupDragon · 04/12/2009 10:05

They've asked if you want to. Go ahead.

You accept you were wrong to have been speeding so it's not like you're protesting your innocence IYSWIM.

Chulita · 04/12/2009 10:06

Hee hee! I love that you're asking this, it's actually quite a tricky one if you have an ounce of conscience. I'd reclaim simply because, yes, you sped past it but they've since admitted that there was a problem with it. If the council are ready to admit fault with something like this, make the most of it, it doesn't happen often And the fact that you're even debating it is a good sign that you don't make a habit of driving like a loon.

mazzystartled · 04/12/2009 10:07

reclaim

it has been deemed that you are allowed to, in fact you have been invited to

your karma and moral fibre will remain in tact

kinnies · 04/12/2009 10:08

Bless you duchesse

Of corse you should reclaim.

Nice to see that there are people out there that care about morals, I was starting to wonder if anyone did anymore.

Bigbadmummy · 04/12/2009 10:13

Without question, reclaim.

pageturner · 04/12/2009 10:15

Oh reclaim, definitely! You sound like a thoughtful and considerate driver. Speaking as a magistrate, there are precious few of you around. Reclaim your fine and points and consider it that karma has rewarded you.

theyoungvisiter · 04/12/2009 10:19

You could always reclaim and then donate the money to a good cause? That's what I'd do (unless I was really hard up at the time).

That way you will feel warm and fuzzy and Christmassy, and will have done a nice thing.

Plus I am sure there are people/causes out there who need the money more than Dorset traffic police.

Thandeka · 04/12/2009 10:26

Question is:

Were you familiar with the route? Ie. did you know the reduced speed was coming up?

duchesse · 04/12/2009 10:30

Thandeka- no, but don't think that's relevant to my dilemma. If I had known the route I would also have known about the camera and been less likely to speed past it even if I were a lunatic driver... lunatic drivers tend to brake sharply before cameras and speed up again straight after.

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Knownowt · 04/12/2009 10:40

Reclaim, no question.

theyoungvisiter · 04/12/2009 10:42

Anyway duchesse, I think in reclaiming you would be no more morally culpable than people who speed past a camera which turns out to not be working.

If you had sped past the camera and it had failed to take your picture, would you have turned yourself in?

duchesse · 04/12/2009 11:21

You all seem to be of the same opinion then.

Youngvisiter- I like your idea muchly. Am now also eyeing up the Oxfam Unwrapped brochure.

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duchesse · 04/12/2009 11:22

visiter- no I would not have turned myself in. Am not that bad! I would have felt a surge of relief and driven more carefully from then on though.

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tablefor3 · 04/12/2009 11:36

Definitely get the points wiped as this will have affected your insurance premiums and the like. You could also donate the fine money to a traffic accident charity like RoadPeace

Wolliw · 04/12/2009 11:41

I don't see the dilema. Do as you please.

MisSalToeKisses · 04/12/2009 11:47

I'd reclaim.

duchesse · 04/12/2009 13:14

Have filled in the paperwork ready to post later.

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silverten · 04/12/2009 14:29

Sounds to me like you don't think you are above the law with regard to speeding anyway, would have slowed down for the 30 if you'd only had the chance to, and as a bonus that the fine and points 'did their job' in making you think a bit more about driving carefully.

But I don't see why you should not reclaim them, because it sounds very much like it was not a particularly fair situation anyway.

Personally it really annoys me when we're set up to be caught by badly placed signs and cameras- OK, rules are rules, but give us a reasonable chance of obeying them...

diddl · 04/12/2009 14:33

I agree you should claim the money, & if you feel you don´t "deserve" it, donate to a charity of your choice.

pantomimecow · 04/12/2009 22:42

reclaim

loopylorna · 05/12/2009 07:35

Reclaim the money. Don't points only last 4 years anyway?