to want to hunt down everyone involved in X Factor..

[gallusbesom]

Again this year they plan to murder a perfectly good song.... Don't Stop Believin' by Journey!

I mean, do we really need this 'talent' show pissing all over quality songs? Apparently Simon Cowell now owns the rights to this song so even if you do buy the original to try and oust them from Christmas number one, he will be making a killing.

I implore you all to stand up to this plague of talentless wee shites ruining this good name of British musical talent!

DD will be getting it for her stocking, sorry.

lol muggle

i really cant bring myself to care op

YABU. If you don't like it, turn over or switch off. After all, its just a blummin' TV show.

i find xfactor entertaining - in an amusing sort of way. But we cant blame xfactor completely for talentless little shites, look at britney, pussycat dolls, pixie lott, the saturdays, and yes before you say it these are all female, but i feel they ruin what music used to be, and try to use there assets to get them where they are, usually i wouldnt have to much of a problem with this as its their business. But music just isnt what it used to be it used to have passion, now its like they just chuck a song together and sing ti, like cheryl coles new song, its bloody awful.

still stuck on the bit about Journey song being called perfectly good.

Really, that'll be the Christmas song? It must be Joe, then, he did a really good version in Rock Week.

Its my guilty pleasure but I do wish the Christmas no.1 had to be fought for.

I still haven't forgiven them for Hallelujah, but Journey? Meh.

My guilty pleasure too, but equally I'm a bit meh about all the contestants this year, tbh.

really goodnightmoon? Is it not considered a bit of a classic? Cheesy as it may be!

I suppose I am harking back to my childhood when it was exciting to find out who was Christmas number one rather than it being decided by Simon Cowell and actually Christmas Songs were written by talented musicians.

What, like Cliff Richard you mean? Or the St Winnifred's School Choir?

In the interests of research I give you:
1988 Cliff Richard "Mistletoe and Wine"
1989 Band Aid II "Do They Know It's Christmas?"
1990 Cliff Richard "Saviour's Day"
1991 Queen "Bohemian Rhapsody" / "These Are the Days of Our Lives"
1992 Whitney Houston "I Will Always Love You"
1993 Mr Blobby "Mr Blobby"
1994 East 17 "Stay Another Day"
1995 Michael Jackson "Earth Song"
1996 Spice Girls "2 Become 1"
1997 Spice Girls "Too Much"
1998 Spice Girls "Goodbye"
1999 Westlife "I Have A Dream" / "Seasons in the Sun"
2000 Bob The Builder "Can We Fix It?"
2001 Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman "Somethin' Stupid"
2002 Girls Aloud "Sound of the Underground"
2003 Michael Andrews & Gary Jules "Mad World"
2004 Band Aid 20 "Do They Know It's Christmas?"
2005 Shayne Ward "That's My Goal"
2006 Leona Lewis "A Moment Like This"
2007 Leon Jackson "When You Believe"
2008 Alexandra Burke "Hallelujah"

and rest my case. The Xmas number one has always been shite, it's just that Simon Cowell has cornered the market in his own particular brand of shite.

I don't mind watching the x factor tbh and think that the ones that are left can actually hold a tune.

But I am with the camp that gets at the fact that we know what the christmas no.1 will be well before xmas. I don't know why anybody else bothers actually. The number 1's have always been shite but at least it was surprise shite.

YANBU, I hate the X Factor with a passion

Me too, teameric. Such crap. Its Strictly for me on a Sat night!

See was in my 'smiths/morrissey' phase when your list midnightexpress - child of the 70's me!!

Although I did love the fact that 2003 Michael Andrews & Gary Jules "Mad World" got to number 1

teameric thank the lord someone agrees with me

Wow those Christmas number ones really are mighty shite

Well, I'd say '91, '94, '96, '02 and '03 are good.

And "Saviour's Day", mawkish lyrics aside, is one of Cliff's best melodies.

My parents used to buy me the top 5 singles for Christmas when I was younger. I still have nightmares

Oh me too gallus, but I'm afraid delving further back doesn't help your argument any, despite the presence here of all the christmas 'classics':
1970 Dave Edmunds "I Hear You Knocking"
1971 Benny Hill "Ernie (The Fastest Milkman in the West)"
1972 Little Jimmy Osmond "Long Haired Lover From Liverpool"
1973 Slade "Merry Xmas Everybody"
1974 Mud "Lonely This Christmas"
1975 Queen "Bohemian Rhapsody"
1976 Johnny Mathis "When A Child Is Born (Soleado)"
1977 Wings "Mull of Kintyre" / "Girls' School"
1978 Boney M "Mary's Boy Child" / "Oh My Lord"
1979 Pink Floyd "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)"
1980 St Winifred's School Choir "There's No-one Quite Like Grandma"

Another Brick in the Wall was a Christmas Number 1??? God, we must have been even more miserable then than we are now.

Thanks midnightexpress - I'm having bloody flashbacks now

1981 The Human League Don't You Want Me
1982 Renee & Renato Save Your Love
1983 The Flying Pickets Only You
1984 Band Aid Do They Know It's Christmas?
1985 Shakin' Stevens Merry Christmas Everyone
1986 Jackie Wilson Reet Petite
1987 The Pet Shop Boys Always On My Mind

The christmas no1 has always been shite.

And while I think it's just a bit dull that we know what the christmas no1 is going to be, it's the not the fault of xfactor, it's the fault of the mugs who pay money for it.

Ooh Jackie Wilson's Reet Petite - I loved the plasticine model videos.

If anyone truly thinks that the country has gone to the dogs in recent years with X Factor et al coining the Xmas number ones, all they have to do is look at the fact in 1980 people forked out good money to buy that St Winifred's School choir song of beelzebub. Jesus.

I'd rather The Soldiers were at No1 for Christmas, sod the X Factor (and have put my money where my mouth is already - I think its a great record very well done).

Annoying that the X Factor producers (ok, I mean Simon Cowell) chose to bring out a single in Nov and then there will be another one in Dec. That's just bloody greedy!

I know it was for charity - but it was the same week as the Children In Need charity record, and the Soldiers record is for H4H....... talk about compassion fatigue.