to think that peraps "BEing Jordan" isnt the best book to have in a school library?¬

[DanDruff]

or am I jsut too feminist nad need to lighten up a bit

A few weeks ago I would have agreed with you about not having Jordan's book in a school library, BUT I have a dyslexic 15 year old who never read books and about a month ago she asked if she could read Jordan's book. I tried to guide her to others, but with no luck. I bought the book, DD3 read it over the next week and since then has been reading books like never before. The second book we bought her was Ann frank's Diary, and she is now reading a book about a war nurse and has loved them all. A dodgy start, but it got her reading and long may it last!

positiveattitude, what a lovely post. How wonderful that your dd has discovered reading for pleasure - something that will stay with her for life. You must be very proud of her.

FWIW I don't think that schools should censor pupils' reading matter, except to exclude books that incite violence or hatred (for example BNP propaganda). I think that there ought to be provision for pupils to 'nominate' books, which would probably include books like the Jordan biography. In their spare time, teenagers should be allowed, or even encouraged, to read what they like - even if they scare themselves silly (as I did reading The Rats by James Herbert at 12). It's the only way they will work out what books they like and don't like. I haven't read a horror story since The Rats incidentally!

Well, she hasn't emancipated herself in any way. Of course, she will believe she has done so because she is not overly blessed in the brain department. There's nothing wrong with this - not everyone can be clever. But she seems to like to portray herself as this shrewd, hard "businesswoman", and it's bullshit.

DanDruff is Jordan

Jordan book is big no no. I haven read any of her books, i wont even touch it if im under gun point

Although I had the misfortune to be lent Jools Olivers witterings on having her PFB. Dear god.

No more negative than a lot of the posters on here. Indeed, far less vituperative than a great many of the women (at other times) on here.

You seem very defensive about her dittany. Why is that?

I think it is just to make a point. Which we can all see- no need for you to step into the breech as a whipping boy. Unless you want to

I think dittany and I have both made our points quite clearly and we are obviously not going to agree on whether Pricey Kate is really in control of her own empire or not.

Time, probably, will tell...

emotionally incontinent plastic titted media whore has no place in school curriculum.

other than as warning

stick in at school or else..

There probably is, actually, a very interesting story to be told about our times as filtered through the experiences and thoughts of people like Pricey Kate and Jodie Boggy and Six-Pack Andre and their cohorts. About the society that has created this hunger and how it is filled. Perhaps in a novel, by a writer with a concept of irony and satire. Now that would be a worthy addition to a school library.

a stark moral tale.sell yourself and you will be sold.like a commodity

It doesn't need to be a genderised thing either. It's the same for male slebs. I imagine Peter Andre and Ashley Cole and Westlife and so on are no more really in charge of their own media destiny than the Jordans of this world.

not genderisation but be sold as a commodity,you are a commodity. many speak your weight wannabe to take your permatan place

In a slight detour I read this morning that Jedward are looking at offers for their 'autobiography'... which should make fascinating reading. Apparently neither of them were too sure of the exact meaning of autobiography.

Appalling though Price is at least she's past the age of 20. I think there should be a legal minimum age on writing an autobiography and anyone who is still a teenage is definitely excluded. Especially if their only claim to fame is a gravity defying hairdo and inability to sing.

tbh, almost anything that keeps them interested in books is good, imho. Some kids are pretty darn reluctant readers.

Whilst I wouldn't read any such crap myself (polishes halo and puts down copy of Hamlet), if it encourages anyone to pick up a book then I am all for it.

I wouldn't waste my money on any celebrity crap of any kind-God knows who keeps spending money on such tripe-it is beyond me.

there is sex in it too.
god i can see the other side of the argument and alos woudl like kids to come to own conclision but hey

But the sex is good, no?

God didn't you pass round Lace and Flowers in the Attic and all that trash at secondary school? We did.

Back away from the copy Dan, leave it be!

what was lace flowers in attic?

One book called Lace (with an infamous, much discussed goldfish) and another book called Flowers in the Attic. See?

err,what role did the goldfish play.dare i ask

No don't ask - just be content in the knowledge that it was the imaginative use of the goldfish which led to this book being considered such hot, racy property amongst 14/15 y-old girls.

was there an increase in goldfish sales for pubescent gerls

And we all read Jackie Collins too. In a way Jordan is rather like a character out of a Jackie Collins book isn't she? All big tits and make-up and wearing tiny pants under her business suit stuff.