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to be fecking furious with school, re: DOGSHITE

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BigMomma3 · 24/11/2009 18:54

DS came out of school today telling me that he got dog dirt on his trousers when he fell over on the playground at lunchtime.

Now I did not think it was dog shite as it looked like dried mud to me but when we got home he took them off and I smelled them and it was !!

Now he told a teacher at the time and she told him to go to the office to sort it (apparently she did not ask him where it was so it could be cleaned up before someone else fell in it ) but the lady at the office told him to go into the loo and wipe it off with tissue paper .

Now would you expect a 7 year old to be able to do this alone without spreading germs all over himself and the sink in the loo . At least they could have given him some antibac spray and watched while he did it and made sure he washed his hands throughly. They also did not tell him to change his trousers (he had some PE jogging bottoms he could have worn) so the germs were probably spread over the carpet when he sat down etc while wearing shitty trousers all afternoon.

The shite was on school premises (there is no way he went into school with it on) probably because the stupid arseholes with those little rat dogs do not seem to think they count as proper dogs and carry them into the school instead of tying them up outside. It is the schools responsibility to ensure the playground is free of shite IMO (and it was'nt cat shite as DS knows the difference as we have a cat).

AIBU to be furious and go off on one at the school tomorrow??

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Gracie123 · 24/11/2009 18:58

That's bloody dangerous! You should definitely go and make a fuss.

TBH I may be slightly over sensitive as I have had to big up two giant dog turds from our driveway this morning as DS (2yo) was poking one with a stick whilst I was trying to load bags in the car.

I don't even have a fecking dog!!

oldraver · 24/11/2009 19:00

I would bring the subject up with them. I am of the opinion that if someone is irresponsible enough to let their dog poo and not clean it up then they are not gonna be too hot on worming

PrettyCandles · 24/11/2009 19:01

YANBU. Definitely the school's responsiblity to ensure that the playground is safe and clean. They should have told him to change and bagged up his trousers, though I don't think a 7yo should need help witht that. They should definitely have cleaned it up before someone else fell in it and trod it all over the indoors. And they shoul denforce the "NO DOGS IN THE PLAYGROUND" rule.

crokky · 24/11/2009 19:03

That's disgraceful and disgusting, I'd be fuming. I would speak to school, definitely.

Thingiebob · 24/11/2009 23:50

I would go utterly apeshit for all the same reasons as you.

YANBU

displayuntilbestbefore · 24/11/2009 23:54

yanbu - bad enough having it on the walk to school and outside the gates but inside the playground???
it shouldn't be on the playground and your ds should have been helped out of trousers and given replacement clothing and firmly bagged the soiled trousers up before sending home
good luck with speaking to the school,that is appalling

wannaBe · 24/11/2009 23:57

playing devil's advocate here, but what is the school's policy on dogs in the playground?

If there is a strict no dogs rule then is it possible they thought, as you did, that it was mud?

Rather than going off on one I would go in and have a calm rational discussion about it and point out that there was definitely dog mess in the playground and therefore request that the school emphasise the no dogs in the playground rule even dogs being carried.

If there isn't a strict no dogs rule then perhaps put a request for one in writing.

Last0rders · 25/11/2009 00:06

Sorry, but gotta at Gracie123's 'bigging' up of dog turds!

As you were.

VengefulKitty · 25/11/2009 00:10

YANBU.

For all the hygiene reasons you state at a minimum (sorry, late, tired and can't think of all the reasons to state).

Although DS's school has a strict 'no dogs on school premises' and they cite the main reasons as mess and allergies. They don't want the responsibility of a child having an allergic reaction. So you could also add that reason...

Servalan · 25/11/2009 00:23

I am absolutely at this. It's so dangerous. Toxicaris can cause blindness in children. I would definitely be having words.

YADNBU!!!

wannaBe · 25/11/2009 00:29

The reasons stated by our school are predominantly mess.

Alergies shouldn't be sighted as a valid reason IMO as assistance dogs would be permitted into the playground so the argument against alergies would break down then.

SparklyGothKat · 25/11/2009 00:30

My DDs' school have a No dogs policy, but we get the ones who bring their puppies in their arms. Most parents do tie their dogs up though. You need to talk to the school about it, and ask what their policy is

Vallhala · 25/11/2009 00:43

YANBU and have every reason to speak to the school. I hope you get results.

kreecherlivesupstairs · 25/11/2009 08:14

YANBU and know you aren't. My dd's school has a strict no dogs policy. There are always certain people who flout the rules though. As noted above, people with new puppies, rehomed dogs, cute dogs, dogs who are sick, bitches in heat......etc. it got to a point where the car park resembled Battersea dogs home and the school put their foot down. As her school is surrounded by farms the school said the farmers would shoot dogs off the school premises. Drastic but effective.

sarah293 · 25/11/2009 08:22

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kreecherlivesupstairs · 25/11/2009 08:31

Oh yes Riven, my dd used to dig for clay in the sand at her last school. I was , there is no clay in sand. I think you can guess what was making the claylike clumps. Luckily her last school was very reactive and put nets over the sandpits at night.

sarah293 · 25/11/2009 08:57

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Gracie123 · 25/11/2009 09:00

Hahaha Lastorders That was meant to say 'pick' up

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BigMomma3 · 25/11/2009 09:43

Well, I spoke to the Deputy Head this morning and she was completely disinterested . She said I should follow the proper procedures and first report it to DSs teacher (who I did not see this AM). Am now in a very bad mood!

I will be back down the school this afternoon with letters for the Head and the teacher. TBH I am not so angry that DS fell in the shit as that was an accident and difficult to prevent unless the school have someone on shit patrol. I am more angry with the way it was dealt with afterwards and the fact that he is at risk of toxicaris because I am pretty sure he would have used cold water to wash his hands (no matter how many times I tell him to use hot) and he would not have thought to change his trousers as I don't think many 7 year old boys would have! It was not a small bit on his trousers either.

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gagamama · 25/11/2009 10:00

YANBU, but could it not have been fox poo? That stinks to high heaven when trodden in, as I know from bitter experience! Not that it makes it any more pleasant, but it might not have actually been the school's fault.

Maybe send him to school with a small bottle of hand gel if he's not very good with hand-washing?

Stayingsunnygirl · 25/11/2009 10:03

I am shocked that the Deputy Head was so uninterested, BigMomma, and good on you for taking it further. As you say, the school should have got your ds to change his trousers, and bagged up the dirty ones - the fact that he was spreading dog poo round everywhere he sat is, in my opinion, negligent and downright disgusting on the part of the school!

My ds once came home from school with his coat in a binbag - he'd stepped in dogpoo on his way to school, and I hadn't noticed, and they'd been told to sit on their coats (for some reason). He'd smeared dog poo all over the inside of his coat, and the school acted at once - he was even lent a coat to come home in.

I will be interested to hear if you get any more satisfactory responses from the school. Good luck!!

tinkerbellesmuse · 25/11/2009 10:05

I can't believe the Deputy Head's reaction. That is disgusting.

YorkshireRose · 25/11/2009 10:17

At my DC's last school the school secretary was out clearing up a pile of dog poo which was directly outside the school entrance. Was on the public pavement so not directly the responsibility of the school, but they very sensibly wanted to make sure their pupils were not trailing through it. She put lots of disinfectant down too, then a teacher was checking all children's shoes to make sure they had not stepped in it as they walked in the door.

Now THAT is the right attitude to this sort of thing. The staff at your DC's school sound really negligent, OP. If your letters to the head don't work, I would complain to the LEA about this poor attitude to the health of kids in their care.

PrammyMammy · 25/11/2009 11:11

This is terrible! Poor ds for a start. Surely they would want it lifted so no other kid ended up in it. Some people are just selfish, i mean who even takes their dog into school grounds, never mind just leaving the dirt.

Once (how disgusting is this) at my nieces school (she is in preschool) Someone, some horrible person, emptied one of those poo bins from the bottom of a lane at the school and threw the bags all over the playground, all over it, not just tipped out. When my sis took her dd to school in the am all the gates were locked until it was cleaned up.

diddl · 25/11/2009 11:48

If this had happened to one of mine at 7,I would have expected the school to phone me so that I could either take in some clean clothes or take my child home!