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To be furious at the way the bailiffs talked to my MIL?

96 replies

Kathyis12feethighandbites · 22/11/2009 09:36

They said 'You've been a very naughty girl, haven't you?'

They had, in fact, phoned up completely the wrong person - she has never owed any money to anyone. She has a very common surname but they were looking for someone with a different initial and different address . But still felt able to berate her on the phone and it took her a while to convince them they had got the wrong person and that they should not come round.

But even if someone did owe them money, how f*cking DARE they talk to someone like that? It's just so creepily threatening.

OP posts:
Ronaldinhio · 22/11/2009 13:53

"lower rungs of society"
"people were very scummy and aggressive"

please don't try to pretend that you were balancing an argument

what you said and the way that you said it was very, very clear

ImSoNotTelling · 22/11/2009 13:56

shoody?

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 13:57

shoDDy ????

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 13:59

i'm not on a pendants thread am i ?
my spelling and typing is shoDDy, you should know that !!

ImSoNotTelling · 22/11/2009 14:03

I thought maybe it was an exciting new word for me to learn.

Sounded a bit down with the kids - "yeah right you know dave, yeah, he's well shoody"

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 14:06

nahhhh, I'm not that cleva. But now ya come to mention it, I fink its a grand word !!

ImSoNotTelling · 22/11/2009 14:09

I'm going to baffle DH by slipping it into conversation at some point today...

paisleyleaf · 22/11/2009 14:10

shoody or shoodnt he?

ImSoNotTelling · 22/11/2009 14:16

Oooh vg

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 14:16

nice paisley.

flimflammum · 22/11/2009 14:16

It's obvious that Upsyone knows more about bailiffs and what they do than just about anyone else on this thread. But she dared to commit the sin of using the un-PC phrase 'lower rungs of society' and so has to be torn to shreds. Ho hum.

ImSoNotTelling · 22/11/2009 14:18

Why is it obvious flimflammum? You know nothing about how much involvement people on this thread have had with bailiffs/debt collection agencies.

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 14:21

I think flim has a point. sometimes someone has a valid point. but they phrase it badly and then the only thing that is discussed is the words used rather than what the person has to say.
Coming from a bad 'phraser' myself.

flimflammum · 22/11/2009 14:26

ImSo: no-one else has mentioned spending a week with a bailiff, I suppose someone might have worked as a bailiff themselves and just be keeping quiet about it

Ronaldinhio · 22/11/2009 14:26

observing a baillif going about his work for a week and then describing the people who he was collecting from as either the lower rungs of society or scum wouldn't be acceptable anywhere

I don't consider it poor phrasing but illuminating
but that's just me

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 14:32

is it not PC to mention rungs of society then ?
must remember that.
next time i'm on a thread where someone wants to be MC, but is clearly WC. Like i was the other week.

sorry. feeling extremely mischevious this afternoon. I think it is becasue dh is not here. of at tottenham, in the executive box, being supplied, drinks and food.

Where are all the funny threads then ?

flimflammum · 22/11/2009 14:33

She didn't say all the people he was collecting from were 'scum', she said:

'Most, and I mean most not all of the people he encountered were sadly very scummy and aggressive. There were of course some lovely people who had suffered misfortunes and they were treated with the empathy they deserved. Sadly these people were few and far between.

So although I don't condone the way the bailiff spoke to the MIL, I understand how if a person does a job like this and has to deal with people screaming in their face that their whole family deserves to die of cancer etc, lying that they have just lost a child, even threatening them with baseball bats and knives that they may become cold and cynical in their dealings with people.'

Ronaldinhio · 22/11/2009 14:41

what are you talking about? oblomov
Are you referring to a thread I was on? Or a thread you were on or what?
I'm confused?

Had upsy said she was out with a bailiff and it seemed like there was probably bad on both sides most of us would have probably agreed as extreme situations bring out extreme behaviours

calling people scummy based upon a ride along with a bailiff is disgusting imvho as is her other weird class scum based suggestion

sheepgomeep · 22/11/2009 14:43

but these bailiffs are normally dealing with people on the lower rungs of society that will say and do anything to avoid their social responsibilities.

I'm not on the lower rungs of society thank you very much

My ex left me in a lot of debt also my dp lost his job just before christmas last year. As a result we got into loads of debt which we took very seriously but we did have the bailiffs in.
I have paid back what I owe in regards to the council via the bailiff.

But hey ho as I'm on the lower rungs of society I obviously deserve to be spoken to like a piece of dirt

Ronaldinhio · 22/11/2009 14:46

jealous of the football though

sheepgomeep · 22/11/2009 14:50

The debt management charity actually buggered up my council tax agreement with the council, there were loads of other cock ups too which was why mine went to the bailiffs.. I know a few other people that have had bailiffs to the house too and they are neither violent, scummy or aggressive just decent people who have fallen on hard times

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 14:50

ronaldinhio, sorry,no idea what i am taking about. my mind is buzzing and mn is just not quick enough - and i haven't even had a drink yet !!
no, just joking refering to a thread, i was on, the other day, re a woman who was WC, who wanted to be middle class. just reminded me of that, thats all.

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 14:52

me too. executive box an all. treat.

Oblomov · 22/11/2009 14:56

sheep, we all know that mistakes happen.
right ISNT ? we are both currently in the midst of a mistake !!!!!!

But many people do lie, say anything to avoid paying back money. not all. but some do. I've seen it myself. Woman down the road, claiming benefits, dh claiming DLA. saw them both at the gym. did any dodgey deal going. sold almost anything to get money. bailiffs, told them to f off, they never had any money, becasue they were on the minimum benefits.
yes people like you , get involved. in error. but the main grpups are people who are in denial or you refuse to pay. there are lots of those.

ImSoNotTelling · 22/11/2009 14:59

I know what you meant oblomov!

flimflam yes it is not beyond the realms of possibility that people might know people who work/have worked as bailiffs. It's not like it's a super-rare occupation like a lion tamer or something.

Also interesting that you dismiss the responses from people who have experience of bailiffs/debt collectors from the other side ie they are the "clients". Presumably you dismiss their experiences as they are likely to be lower-rung scum.

To say that one person who spent one week with one bailiff has a much better idea of the industry as a whole and practices therein, than people who have had dealings with bailiffs etc "at the sharp end", plus dismissing investigations by respected TV and newspaper types, seems rather one sided.