To think that Kate Moss was wrong

[busybutterfly]

...to say that "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels".

Well for a start there's chocolate...

"The implication is that, when looking at any piece of food, she weighs up whether she would rather eat it or be a little bit thinner."

Um...isn't that what everyone does if they want to lose weight/stay the same size? You can't eat whatever you want and stay a small size unless you're very lucky, so you have to lose one or the other. That's biology. Within reason, being slim does contribute to happiness, because it's validated everywhere in society.

When I am feeling slim I am virtuous and feel superior to those who stuff Spicy Nik Naks down their necks willy nilly. So then yes, nothing does taste as good as being slim feels.

HOWEVER
When I am feeling more voluptuous NOTHING beats 2 fried eggs on toast. And a mint penguin for pudding.

Oh and FWIW India Knight says the very same as Kate in her slimming book, so it's not all size 4's that believe it.

Agree Cybil, it's on India's plan that I've lost all the weight

I think it's a great motto

IMO No. Normal people who diet should be trying to eat a balanced diet and cutting down the fat, sugar, etc. It shouldn't be balancing every mouthful against the need to be skinny. The thought process of a normal person should be "I'm on a diet so it's chicken and veg for dinner", not "do I really need dinner. Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels." That's what she's advocating. She's talking about every time she eats,not whether she has extra roast potatoes.

I really think people are taking the phrase out of context. Of course it's contraversial as it's been adopted by the pro ana set, but honestly, it's not advocating starvation. At least not to me

I think what is most worrying is that she is seen as a role model on pro-ana, pro-mia sites, which she really has to know about. Either that or she's been really sheltered from the whole skinny models = anorexia thing, which I find highly unlikely.

And this is the kind of phrase used on pro-ana, pro-mia sites. So imagine you are anorexic and looking up to Kate Moss, to hear her then justify what you believe will push you even further from recovery. Because she's said it's ok.

Whether she is anorexic/bulimic or not, it is an irresponsible thing to say.

Isn't the fact that the phrase has a context it carries with it kind of the point? Some phrases have stronger meanings than just the literal.

Unless of course Kate is honestly so daft she didn't realise this and meant "when I want a king size Mars bar I think..."

Why should she change her (actually reasonable) view just because some slightly unbalanced people might get hold of it and take it to the extreme? If we followed that principle, no one would ever say anything interesting.

I think the problem with the phrase is that it implies skinniness (?) is the most important thing. How thin you are, what size jeans you can fit into, what numbers appear on the scales, is more important than anything else. Including eating.

Whilst I think we can get too hung up on food - it should be about nutrition not just enjoyment - it is a legitimate part of the pleasures of life. There is something horribly self-denying and sterile about the phrase.

"no one would ever say anything interesting."

It's not interesting.

To be fair to her, it is her bloody job to be thin. I work on a computer all day. Kate Moss getting fat would be akin to me cutting my right hand off so I could no longer use a mouse.

Whatever it takes to make her feel better about it, I say. Just thank your stars that the only thing that will happen when we eat one too many biscuits is our jeans feel a bit tight. We don't have to deal with the outrage and utter disgust of the media and general public.

OK, rant over.

"Why should she change her (actually reasonable) view just because some slightly unbalanced people might get hold of it and take it to the extreme?"

Because in this case there is no might about it. It's not news that she is seen as a role model within the pro-ana community, it hasn't been news for a long time.

But how other people perceive you is important. I know we always pretend it isn't, but your life and progress depends on other people thinking of you in a certain way. And rightly or wrongly people tend to attribute better characteristics to people who are slim - that they are harder working, more professional, more in control - than people who are fat, who are often considered lazy or self-indulgent even though it is rarely the case. I would say it is probably worse for women than men.

She didn't even come with that on her own. Its an old (or maybe current) Weight Watchers slogan!!

In light of all the millions of obese people in the UK it might not be a bad motto for others to follow. BUT they have probably never known how being slim feels, or can't remember.

There is a middle ground in all this.

I don't think anyone is saying that being slim is bad, but for someone who has so much influence over a vulnerable group of people, it's a shame not to see that influence used for good. Rather than reinforcing their unhealthy beliefs.

i'd agree with her. i prefer being in shape to eating food that might taste great but is bad for me.

I agree with her too.

i was once rather slim, and yes back then imotivated myself with such thoughts..though i really did have to ration the food to get under 9 stone..and Kate moss, like most models is naturally thin - as Erin O'connor says, if you aren't naturally thin to begin with, fashion modelling is not for you - dieting will never be enough. which is not to say models don't also have to eat carefully and exercise on top of that...Kate moss has made a lot of money from her looks and modelling talent, and she seems to have enjoyed herself doing it - so fair play to her.

It does feel great to know you look all hot with your body all toned, though as a woman with two kids, i really don't get to wear lovely clothes anyway, so being thin wouldn't be enough motivation to slim down again. I never get to go anywhere nice anyway! >sulk<

chocolate on the other hand.. many opportunities to enjoy!

she should obviously go round Nigella's!

Bacon.

She is probably just delirious.

Not all food that tastes great is bad for you

Just most of it

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