Could everybody who has a grandiose sense of entitlement over the following sectors of society :

[MaggiePie]

those on benefits
single mothers
drug addicts who manage to function and not live in a shanty..

If you feel that you are superior and deserve more, and get the ache when the above people can cobble together enough to get by on, if that pisses you off, then de-register and go and pollute some other forum, cos this used to be a good one where this kind of toxic mindset was very rare.

Thank you.

Donnie - Thomas Hardy made up his own words. Towards the end of his life he found that if he wasn't sure if a word really existed or if he'd invented it, he'd look in the dictionary and find that it was there, but with him as the source...

Oh thank you, dearie, for such ever so clever advise. Can't help you with the poor imagination though. So sorry.
Now, back to feeling entiteled...

I think there are probably people who have an overly developed sense of entitlement in all parts of society. But I think probably more among the well-off. For example, people who assume they deserve to get paid 3 times as much as someone who looks after old people with dementia in a care home (ok, I'm picking an emotive example here but it's true). Or who feel that it is their right to inherit a large sum of money from their parents and that inheritance tax to share some of this around among those not lucky enough to have property-owning parents is iniquitous. Your parents may have worked hard to save it up. You didn't.

OK, liberal leftie rant over. I freely admit to being comfortably off myself (I can easily afford a whole year's maternity leave which is probably a good indicator) and I am not rushing to give all my worldly goods to the poor. But at least I recognise that where you are in society isn't necessarily an indicator of how virtuous or hard-working you are, but has a lot to do with where you started off.

You're welcome Rollmops

PS...it's "advice" and "entitled"

And it's a better part of a nice Merlot....
Hic....

Nothing wrong with a nice glass (or two) of Merlot

mn is heaving with threads that will offend someone.peppered with irascible ill tempered badly though out posts,maligning someone

that's why i love it

can you add working mums to maligned groups?they always get a pasting

i love when a thread goes down the why did you have children if you let strangers watch em....

or the martyr mums i knit my own tampons,live in a dark dank hole,haven't had a haircut for 6yr...all for the children. so you can downsize too and live like me

oh aye sounds smashing

Aiiiiiiiii... why did you have to say that?? ...knit my own tampons..... yucksy, I have a grrreat imagination I have you know and didn't need this mental picture.... arrghh... DH thinks I've gone mad.... again
Hic....

I love it when people get pissy about language skills, and thus inadvertantly reveal their own vocabulary's paucity. Hilarious. Begrudgery most certainly IS a word. It's in common use in Ireland. Google is your friend!

Georgimama, I think there's a sense of entitlement, because people feel entitled to have a better quality of life than those on benefits. A lot of the time that's what the driving focus of such posts is about.

I don't mind such posts, because it's cheering to watch the OPs being methodically eviscerated.

i love it too when folk gurn about spelling/syntax and want Harvard referencing

i demand cochrane library peer reviewed studies when i read people making erroneous seeping statements eg nursery causes psychosis,pimples and psoriasis.only for them to lamely cite biddulph and journal of tampon knitting moms

scottishmummy

"can you add working mums to maligned groups?they always get a pasting

i love when a thread goes down the why did you have children if you let strangers watch em....

or the martyr mums i knit my own tampons,live in a dark dank hole,haven't had a haircut for 6yr...all for the children. so you can downsize too and live like me"

Gosh you really are a spiteful woman when it comes to SAHMs aren't you.

Perhaps you are one of the people the OP is referring to?

What was spiteful about what scottishmummy said? I agree her with her personally - there are lots of threads like that: "If you don't do things the way that I, perfect parent, do things, then you are obviously a BAD MOTHER"

Scottishmummy if that chip on your shoulder gets any deeper , you're in danger of losing your arm sweetie

I've never knitted a tampon...

I'll send you the pattern Longtalljosie.

I read the DM for the rage it fills me with. Working/Single/Non-Working/Claiming Mothers are evil type stuff. But recently I noticed an article I actually agreed with, the way women become when discussing children and parenting techniques.

What bothers me more than someone thinking I'm not raising my DS correctly as my methods/lifestyle differs to theirs is the way we turn on each other. I used to be a working full time single mother. Now I'm married and only have to work part time. I'm not any better or worse of a mother for this. Just a change in circumstance.

It's no ones business but mine what I earn, how long I work and what I can afford. Some down the road from me are on benefits, 3 kids, never worked a day. I don't envy them. But so what. She's stopping home caring for her kids. If she can afford a nice holiday, great! Hope they enjoy it. None of my business.

apologise if i dont make much sense today. throat and ear infection.

scottishmummy, as a lone working mother myself who has committed the cardinal crime of letting someone else look after my children while I work, I think you're dead right!!

The same comments frequently come out on threads where women are considered to be putting anything else (e.g. job, sanity) in any way 'before' their children: 'you AWFUL mother, I would walk through fire for my children/ clean toilets for a living/ amputate own limbs because I LOVE THEM SO MUCH' (and you clearly don't, etc)

Prefer the ones that say 'if you just choose a different way of living, spend less then you too could be a sahm.'

Really?! I earn double what my DP does, we couldn't afford the mortgage (which is on a tiny semi in rough area) if I didn't work.

But if I just stopped all those foreign holidays (haven't had one for 15 years) I could be a SAHM... NO I BLOODY WELL COULDN'T.

Rant over.

Actually this is turning into exactlythe type ofthing I hate which has been going on forever and is nothing to do with newbies.

Someone posts something about WOHM. They are a SAHM. As it happens they are also a knob. So a load of WOHMs respond. Ibstead of pointing out that the poster is being a knob they respond instead by abusing all SAHMs as if they are some great generic like minded group who have compulsory tampon knitting, self flagelating meetings daily to keep their views in sync.
It works in exactly the same way the other way around - a WOHM talks about coffee drinking air heads and instead of pointing out that she is a twat, loads of SAHMs respond as if WOHMs are mums who dump their children and run.
Same with private /state etc etc.

Drives me fucking nuts.

The thing is lots of people do feel a sense of entitlement over people less well off than themselves but it is probably not thought out. If they read a thread title on mumsnet and think - oh yes I agree with that - and then read the thread they will then read opposing views and maybe realise that they were wrong.

I agree with Scottishmummy - there is nothing to be gained by reining in free speech. The truth will out and you may find many people actually changing their minds.

Not in relation to this issue, but in relation to many other ones, I have changed my mind on lots of things through reading mumsnet threads. The great thing about mumsnet is that you get to see different people's perspectives - which you would often never do in real life.

TSC - Could you ring SS to report me pls, then they could send my kids to you for a proper upbringing

Pagee - you're right, these threads do always go the same way, v funny.

TBH - I work because we can't afford for me not to, BUT if we could afford it, would I give up totally? No. For me its important for my sanity to keep working. Obviously each to their own though