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To not want my boss to call me lazy because I can't make a course that starts at 8.15am?

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dilemma456 · 16/11/2009 14:19

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mumblechum · 16/11/2009 14:20

I wouldn't have told him, and turned up 30 mins late. The first 30 mins is always coffee and biscuits time ime

IwishIwasmoreorganised · 16/11/2009 14:23

YANBU - he is though!

Just go - get there as soon as you can.

Mumbelchum is right - there's usually coffee and registration fo the first 1/2 hour so it's unlikely that you'll miss much if anything.

verytellytubby · 16/11/2009 14:23

Horrible man.

I agree I would have turned up late.

squeaver · 16/11/2009 14:24

I think you should mention this to someone in your HR department.

dilemma456 · 16/11/2009 14:28

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abra1d · 16/11/2009 14:30

This makes me want to spit at him on your behalf. What an idiot.

onadietcokebreak · 16/11/2009 14:31

Even if you dont go now (which I am not suggesting) you will already be committed to extra costs. At such short notice you are not being unresonable at all.

thatsnotmymonster · 16/11/2009 14:32

YANBU

You have done everything in your power to try to get there early and you still won't be able to make it on time.

All the courses I've ever been on have always been much more relaxed that I expect them to be. Can you just send a quick email (from home maybe) to the course co-ordinator explaining that you may be 20mins late due to your childcare arrangements?

Your boss is a TWAT.

ruddynorah · 16/11/2009 14:34

is he running the course or someone else. if someone else they probably won't be fussed anyway. as the others say, it's all coffee and biscuits and waiting for people who are late. plus you might get to miss the tedious 'what do you hope to get out of this course' ice breaker

squeaver · 16/11/2009 14:34

Yes you definitely should.

Make an appointment with someone and also make a note of what was said and notes of anything he says from now on.

JustAnotherManicMummy · 16/11/2009 14:34

Two words I'd spit at say to him. Sex Discrimination

And yes, I'd speak to HR if you've already explained to him and his behaviour is still so poor.

onadietcokebreak · 16/11/2009 14:35

Is it a large organisation. What family friendly policies do they have? Will you be reimbursed for the additional expense of child care as course arranged outside of contracted hours. will you even receive extra pay.

I'd be sending a very stongly worded email to HR citing possible discrimination against part time workerr. I believe thats illegal. Maybe worth posting on employment issues and maybe flowery or similar can help.

Longtalljosie · 16/11/2009 14:36

Do you think this behaviour is aimed at you? If you suspect so, you should speak to HR, or at least start taking notes of what's going on...

onadietcokebreak · 16/11/2009 14:37

tell him to stick this in his pipe

dittany · 16/11/2009 14:38

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edam · 16/11/2009 14:42

He's a twonk of the highest order. Presumably he needs people to bring up children in order to create future customers/workers/people to wipe his bum when he's old and needs a care home?

Agree if there's a pattern of behaviour here it's looking like sex discrimination and discrimination against part-time workers (which is indirect sex discrimination because they are largely female).

anniemac · 16/11/2009 14:42

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dilemma456 · 16/11/2009 14:54

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loobylu3 · 16/11/2009 15:08

You boss is being completely unreasonable! Presumably he is aware of your childcare commitments? Does your contract/ job plan states that you start at 9.30am? I think you should e mail him back and explain clearly that you are sorry not to be able to make it to the course for 8.15am and that it is your childcare commitments which make it impossible for you to start at this time, particularly as the timing of the course has now been altered at short notice. You could also explain that you have already made extra provision to attend the course, as you are normally only contracted to start at 9.30am. If possible, you could copy this e mail (and forward his) to someone in HR. Please keep copies of all these e mails and any others that you receive. If the situation does worsen rather than improve, you will have documentary proof of the discrimination that you appear to be suffering from. Good luck!

JustAnotherManicMummy · 16/11/2009 15:41

Full time/part time. Makes no difference. He is treating you like this because you are a mother.

Falls under sex discrimination. I'd point this out to him and then confirm the conversation by email.

As in, "I was upset when you suggested that my childcare commitments mean I am lazy. Do you understand how that makes me feel and that it is very unfair?"

Then follow up with less emotive email summarising your and his main points.

PDR · 16/11/2009 15:49

YANBU but he most definately is!

Agree with JustAnotherManicMummy that an email to him saying how his comments made you feel should do the trick.

My boss would be exactly the same if it makes any difference and she is a woman who has had kids!

catinthehat2 · 16/11/2009 16:10

Looby's email approach preferable as completely factual and covers the issue. No need to explore the feelings bit at all, after all the response is clearly "I don't give a s@!*"W

catinthehat2 · 16/11/2009 16:16

stray W

loobylu3 · 16/11/2009 16:26

Thx cat- I have found myself in a similar situation (actually much worse and more complicated). It will be very helpful for you to have this sort of contemporaneous documentation available if the situation doesn't improve. If you follow the suggestion, it shows that he is behaving in a discriminatory manner and that you have been entirely reasonable in trying to arrange extra childcare provision already. I would be polite and factual, not emotional. If he is as much of a t**t as you think, he will just call you pre- menstrual if you get upset!