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To not want my ds to have to take Welsh for GCSE

153 replies

slushy06 · 12/11/2009 12:40

He is only 3 but it has started bothering me the thought that like me he may not want to take and may be no good at it and may have to take it and get a poor grade when to be honest I just don't see the point of it and would much rather he learn something more useful if he doesn't like it.

I would have no issue with if he wanted to and I have no problem with Maths English and Science being compulsory but I just don't think Welsh is as important as those subjects and should not be compulsory.

I am posting this but I have to go out then so will reply when I get back. But I will be very interested to hear responses and maybe a reason as to why it is compulsory.

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mosschops30 · 12/11/2009 14:22

no hobnob - like I said I dont speak welsh

InterruptingKid · 12/11/2009 14:22

look oyu just say

jsdhkdjf dhhd dhf NEWPORT djjfkdj computer sdjdsjkj i pone
and thats welsh for ya

funtimewincies · 12/11/2009 14:23

its, sorry. I'm slipping, due to being confused by 2 languages!

domesticextremist · 12/11/2009 14:23

slushy - are you being deliberately offensive?

Welsh? A dead language? Well it will be if people like you have their way.

Language is culture and is incredibly important.

And as for usefulness I dont know why you think that your children are more likely to swan off to Paris or Madrid to work then they are to get a job with the assembly anyway.

DoingTheBestICan · 12/11/2009 14:23

Rather like your grammar then, wouldn't you say InterruptingKid?

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 12/11/2009 14:24

Quite frankly if people went round saying this about any other race they would get slapped down pretty quickly! Yes interruptin and moss I find you both rude and patronising

slushy06 · 12/11/2009 14:24

I can speak quite a bit of Welsh scattykatty I just have never found a use for it.

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mice · 12/11/2009 14:25

I think that learning Welsh is a small price to pay anyway for living in Wales where museums and prescriptions among other things are free.

funtimewincies · 12/11/2009 14:25

My favourite is 'bwci' (turf accountant), but we also have the best word for chips (sglodion) !

mosschops30 · 12/11/2009 14:25

you wanna try being english here lovely girl!!!

Im not the slightest bit bothered by how you find me

Dumbledoresgirl · 12/11/2009 14:25

One lesson a day is quite a lot actually. That puts it on a par with English and Maths.

slushy06 · 12/11/2009 14:26

How am I being offensive I am welsh I can speak some welsh I am just saying what as a Welsh person I have seen.

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hobnobsaremyfavourite · 12/11/2009 14:28

Then move to England! Just a thought. If I lived in any other country I would respect their culture , traditions and language and encourage my children to learn as much about that country as they could so they would fit in and learn respect for other cultures whether large or small

slushy06 · 12/11/2009 14:29

Also free prescriptions for under 25s is not really much use if my son is in car crash and has to travel 40 minutes on a clear road to the nearest hospital.

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InterruptingKid · 12/11/2009 14:29

djndjfndjnfjd word processor dfihdfdkhf change at cardiff dfjdkjfkdjfk rugby

see?!

mosschops30 · 12/11/2009 14:29

youre boring me now!

slushy06 · 12/11/2009 14:31

I do have respect but most people who can speak Welsh can not tell you much about Welsh history as it is not taught and deemed unimportant.

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ScattyKatty · 12/11/2009 14:31

I'm English but my Mother's best friend is Welsh and taught me some.... age 4 I told my teacher who was Welsh that I learned some, she asked what I replied what turned out to be 'you are a dirty pig' in Welsh.

I love Welsh

slushy06 · 12/11/2009 14:32

Which I believe would give you more of an insight into the Welsh culture than a language.

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ScattyKatty · 12/11/2009 14:33

PS, Interuptingkid are you a hideous rascist or do you just pretend you are for kicks?

macdoodle · 12/11/2009 14:34

I learnt lots of things at school (like calculus and algebra), none of which have any use whatsoever either in my daily life or my career!

Learning is important for lots of things other than being "useful"

This is a stupid thread now!

InterruptingKid · 12/11/2009 14:34

i am just trying to annoy you.

lostinwales · 12/11/2009 14:35

Wow this thread has made me spit my tea in amazement! I live in a mostly welsh speaking area, villages and big towns, all the schools are welsh medium and my 3DS's are all bilingual (even the 2year old). Welsh is the first language spoken although everyone will switch to english if they are with and english speaker. The radio stations are in welsh, there are TV channels in welsh and my church services are 50/50. I'm just amazed that no one else really knows that there are areas like this! I don't speak fluent welsh but have found that for shouting at children it is a far more efficent (english sp) language.

My DH spoke no english until he started school at 5 and did all his schooling in welsh and then went to england and got a very good science degree. He's worked in england and wales and is now a primary school teacher, he takes the english stream in his school, but in the staff room only welsh is spoken.

Sorry I'm feeling a bit ranty about this! We're so surrounded by it around here I find it amazing that no one else is aware of communities like this.

And I belive that it is now proven that being bilingual as a child helps with maths and other languages as they progress through school.

edam · 12/11/2009 14:35

Blimey, I really don't know what all the fuss is about. My dad did Welsh O-level back in the 1960s so it's hardly news that Welsh schools teach Welsh. Where he grew up, very few people spoke Welsh day-to-day - it had been beaten out of their parents at school so they didn't teach their kids as it would 'hold you back'.

Think my mother, English but went to a Welsh university, had to take a short course in Welsh too. Not that she remembers any of it beyond how to pronounce 'll' and the difference between 'f' and 'ff'.

domesticextremist · 12/11/2009 14:36

But thats just not true slushy - language is more important to culture than history.

If you dont have language then you cant think or express your own culture, you have to use a borrowed language - some might say a language borrowed from someone who has oppressed you in the first place.