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AIBU?

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To tell DH that if he gets into a fight, I will leave and take DC?

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OrangeSpacedust · 03/11/2009 18:24

Sorry in advance for the length. We've been having problems with DH's father over the last year or so. He refusing to comply with our requests re the kids, telling DH mockingly that (for example) such-and-such didn't do him any harm when he was a child (fizzy drinks, other rubbish), and generally being argumentative and obnoxious. DH has had problems with him all his life and they've had regular fallouts, but the most recent one was the worst and they don't communicate at all now. All arrangements re seeing the kids come through me.

He is the kind of man you just can't reason with, he goes off at tangents, doesn't address the point you're trying to make and never takes responsibilities for his own temper ? someone else always made him lose it. DH had a pretty crummy upbringing at times but is now (relatively!) normal, god knows how!

However, things have come to a head recently with FIL being unhappy at the access arrangements for seeing the kids (we reckon he should be grateful for any time he gets with them) and he has started being cheeky and abusive to me too, in emails. I've not yet said I'm going to stop him seeing the kids, and I don't want it to come to that, but it's looking increasingly likely. DH is getting riled at what FIL is saying to me and I'm worried that FIL will start texting DH direct, to try and get a rise out of him, or even approach him. He's already taunting him, via me, for 'hiding' behind me, when in fact DH knows there is just no point trying any more, and is maintaining a dignified silence.

But DH says there may come a time when the taunts and insults get too much, because he knows what his dad is like, and he will "have to retaliate", in his words. And the problem is, he's not ruling out physically. DH is a level-headed, intelligent guy but I can't get through to him that he just cannot get into a physical fight with his father. I'm terrified that things would get out of control and something awful would happen. DH insists that there would come a point when he just couldn't ignore things any longer (if the abuse towards me got any worse, for example).

DH and I have a very strong relationship and I've never given him an ultimatum before, not in 13 years together, but I've talked till I'm blue in the face and he can't accept that violence might not be inevitable ... AIBU?

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WhereYouLeftIt · 04/11/2009 00:05

I agree with AnyFucker (do love that name btw ) - this situation boils down to a choice between DH and FIL. Whether the DCs have fun with him is irrelevant imo, the fact is that his presence is tearing your DH up and your FIL is doing it deliberately.

If it were the other way around, and you were under such a barrage of sly assaults from your mother, would you not want your DH to say "you know, we really don't need her in our life, she just has a go at you all the time and I hate to see you upset like that." Or, if he didn't do that but instead made all the arrangements so that your mother could take your DCs out and said to you that the DCs enjoyed being with her, even though she gleefully fed them crap knowing that you didn't want her to do that - well, wouldn't you start looking at him with a bit of a jaundiced eye? Wouldn't you feel unsupported and isolated? Wouldn't it make you hate the old bag all the more?

I think your tolerance for the FIL could be detrimental.

diddl · 04/11/2009 09:00

Gosh, if this was a MIL, people would be rubbing their hands in glee at how easy it was being made or contact to be severed!

Like others, I can´t get why you are trying to keep this guy in your lives to the possible detriment of your marrige.

Seriously, FIL or husband?

madamearcati · 04/11/2009 09:28

There are 2 differeny and unrelated issues here.Your DH's relationship with his father , which is something with a long and destructive history.And his relationship with his GC.Do your GC enjoy being with their grandfather ? It would be a shame to spoil that because of their feud.

OrangeSpacedust · 04/11/2009 09:55

Thanks. Well, we're taking the policy of simply ignoring him now and will see what happens. Madamearcati, yes, that's the problem. He is not a bad grandfather.

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Miggsie · 04/11/2009 10:01

Are you sure he is a good grand dad??????

My grandma was very VERY antagonistic towards my parents and when we children were with her she used to slag our parents off all the time and make really sarky remarks about them.

She used to give us money and say "don't tell your mother, she would just take it off you" and things like that, which were totally untrue, I see this now but at the time it was upsetting and confusing.

It was no fun having a granny like that and I stopped seeing her as I grew older as we were being used as pawns in the power game.

OrangeSpacedust · 04/11/2009 10:12

Miggsie I wouldn't go as far as to say that, no! I don't think the kids will suffer with him not being in their lives, I just don't think they would come to any harm with him. I'm just trying to do the right thing morally here. Which unfortunately, is edging closer to cutting him out, but I didn't want it to come to that.

And it's not a choice between DH and FIL ? DH fully supports my reasoning and would allow the kids to continue to see FIL if I saw fit ... but as I've said, I really don't think I do any more.

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Chorlton1975 · 04/11/2009 12:07

FIL has no automatic "right" to see his grandkids. Just ignore him. Don't lay down ultimatums to your husband, just phase out the father-in-law.

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