To think bull terriers and other dangerous dogs should be banned from parks

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I know they have to be walked somewhere but sick of seeing horrible savage dogs on the loose just looking like they're ready to maul a child. I stick to the dog free areas with DS but you occasionally get dogs in there and usually with owners too scary looking to question. And why of why do people let their kids near them or even thinking about having those types of dogs if you have young children?

I don't usually like to say anything on threads like this as I find they can end up a bit tit-for-tat, but having said that I would like to point out that I was brought up around dogs - many breeds.

My family and I have owned a Chihuahua, a Jack Russell Terrier, A GSD, a Dobie, a King Charles Spaniel a Staffie x Boxer and one of her pups (father was King Staffie).

I found that the chihuahua was the most vicious of the bunch and in fact once leapt off the bed and bit me so hard that he was hanging from my stomach and scarred me through my leather coat just because I dared walk into my mothers room.

My Staffie x Boxer looks like a pit, and her offspring that is my son's dog even more so due to the King Staff in him. Both these dogs are the most gentle (although nutty! - and that means excitable) dogs I have come across. The mum was introduced to DS when he was 18mths old and they are the best of friends - to the point where he used to cry if she didn't go bed with him. He pulls her ears, tail etc and even used to sit on her back and pull her head up by her neck or her lips to give her a kiss. Dangerous?? Methinks not.

DS's aunt also had 2 staffies. One was named Arnie after Arnold Schwarzenegger (sp?) as he was huge and looked intimidating. Dangerous?? Hardly, the thing was scared of his own shadow!! He couldn't be walked at night due to the shadows and how much he'd poop himself! He lived in a house with 3 children and was there before all them were born. Dopiest dog ever .

There ARE some dangerous dogs. Some are dangerous by nature, BUT if raised right they are very good natured and predicatble. Unfortunately it the irresponsible owners who are "dangerous", the ones who never discipline or who actually train the dog to be nasty.

As for parks, in a no dog area, then of course they should not be there. But a public, open park is precisely that. Public and open to all - including dog owners who choose to exercise their dogs there.

And why shouldn't an obedient dog be let off the lead? Actually, dogs such as Staffies should be let off for a good run. They need the exercise and a short walk at our pace on a lead does not pffer adequate exercise for such breed.

I think there needs to be tougher penalties for the owners IMO.

No. It is not ridiculous. It's about time that the cuddly staffies [rolls eyes] et al should be banned from public parks with childrens play areas.
The harm they can inflict on little children is too great for parents who do not own, nor ever would, a sweet staffie etc.to take.

I have only ever been bitten once by a dog and that was a Chiwawa!

Im not sure they should be banned but it annoys me when I see dogs running around near the swings when the park is quite large and there are plenty of other places for them to be let off the lead. We used to have two dogs and I kept them on the lead near the swings and took him further away from the childrens areas to run around later.

so I think you are being unreasonable to want them banned - but a bit of consideration wouldnt go amiss from some people!

Does this really need to be discussed again?
OK, those who are scared of dogs will agree with you. Thos who aren't, and/or actually like dogs don't agree with you.

Over and over and over - this topic just keeps coming back!

Please read RainRainGoAway post :
"There are bad owners whos dogs bite, good owners whose dogs bite and this is the first ever time and they 'never did anything like that before', dogs that are well trained, dogs which aren't, young dogs who know no better, old dogs which have been 'wound up' dogs which have bitten for no explainable reason. The only common thread seems to be that it is sudden, often for no apparent reason and that the owners never saw it coming and are in deep shock. And yes, a very large proportion of the dogs that bite are the ones that are stereotypically feared as 'nasty' (ie Staffies etc)"
It is irresponsible putting a baby in the same bed as a dog, any dog, never mind a staffie!

i was at crufts when a poodle bit the judge..

@rollmops yabvu

My old staffie would have laid down her life for us. She truely was such an amazing and loyal dog, she trusted us and we repaid that trust to her. When our DS1 was born she was so in awe of this new little creature that we clearly adored she wouldn't even look at him because she could see that he was higher up in the 'pack' than her. This changed over the years and she would look out for him in the park etc.

Even though she's been gone a year both my DS still talk about her and pretend that she is alive - because she was such a great part of our family. When we get a new dog it will be a staffie and be rescued.

IMO Jack Russell's are the one's to watch!

Yabvu to say Bull Terriers- you clearly know nothing about dogs.

Yanbu to expect people to keep dogs out of swing parks and specific no dog areas.

Yanbu to expect people to control their dogs, respect that other people may not enjoy their dog as much as they do, to train and treat them properly.

Yanbu to say ANY dog of ANY breed may bite if provoked.

Yanbu to expect people to pick up dog poo regardless of disease it's the treading in it. Took me half an hour to clean it off dd1's start rites yesterday (not from my dog btw)

Change the thread title leaving out the ignorant part about Bull Terriers and you may get some support.

Off to walk my Staffie in a park with my kids now...

I too used to be scared of staffies,that is until my dd got one.I have known the dog since she was a puppy,she is now two years old and is the most affectionate dog i have ever known.I used to have a boxer and he was far more aggressive than the staffie,i would never of left a child with him.My dd,s staffie is the stupidest dog ever,dosent like rain,is scared of cats ,noise etc,BUT if i didnt know her i probably still would of been scared of them ,maybe by taking the trouble to get to know a staffie you will see they are not as terrible as some people think they are.

MummyTheQueen- my staff also rain phobic firework phobe. Heard of a lot of Staffs hate rain. Also verging heavily toward the stupid!

OP- if a dog is truly 'dangerous' as in by law they would be leashed and muzzled when out.

she wont even go through the dog flap because when it closes it makes a noise !

Having seen a staffie savage a whippet until it was almost dead last week, literally seconds after pulling my 18 month old away from it in a public park, I would say YANBU. However, I know that I am being influenced by my raw feelings.

Having seen the owner let the dog run unsupervised around the playground (which is supposed to be dog free) 5 minutes before, and then say to the poor whippet owner, (who was in complete pieces herself having fought the staffie to stop it biting her and her dog), "oh he's never done that before" over and over again without apologising or getting up off her fat backside to put her dangerous dog on a lead - I say ban the stupid bloody irresponsible dog owners.

the dangerous dogs out shouldn't be amended - it should be binned!

it did absolutely bugger all - dog fighting was already illegal, and there were already powers to seize and destroy dogs known to have bitten people.

but yes, this topic just annoys me because time and time again the same people will pop up and say the same things.

how afraid are you of lightning?

you are more likely to be killed by lightning than a dog. obviously rain clouds should only be allowed out wearing muzzles...in specific areas marked out by lightning conductors.

How awful Meerkat.
People who let their dogs in playgrounds are dozy idiots.

That's bad Meerkat, really bad.

Vengefulsinner.....................WTF is a king staff.????????? had sbts for 15yrs and NEVEr heard of this????

Rollmops if Staffordshires are that dangerous then why haven't they been added to the dangerous dogs list? And why do the kennel club clearly state that they are a good dog to have around children?

The tabloids say Staffys are dangerous. The reputable breeders, the Kennel club and crufts all disagree. I know who I'd rather believe.

They are powerfull dogs. And like any dog, can become dangerous if they are badly bred and badly treat, but in general they are a loving, loyal and playfull breed that want nothing more than a hug and a belly rub.

sowhatis - sorry, habit of a lifetime, father was actually an Irish, but in XP's area they are all referred to as King as they are taller and leaner that normal staffies (I think - the ones I have come across are)

Gotcha! Irish now makes sense!!! Have seen some sbt x boxers, very nice! We now have a bullmastiff and Dogue de bordeaux -so you can imagine the looks!!!!

dd,s is alo an irish staffie ,she is taller than a normal staffie,but certainly not leaner ,i have never heard them referred as that before.You learn something every day.

Haaaaa,so now we have stupid yet powerful dogs and utterly stupid and unquestionably violent owners - the vile jobs, as they are the culprits who breed the intimidating, untrained fighting dogs. What a lovely combination.[yuckkkkkkkk]
I presume the posters here who own similar dogs are responsible dog owners, Kennel Club members and know the bloodline-history of their lovely beasts throughly as they all swear by the gentle nature of their pets

Dogs.

I think im going to hide this thread because the annoyance at the utter ignorance of a certain poster is going to send me into early labour!!

Crikey sowhatis - that must be a beast! Do you have a pic you can link? I'd love to see!

MTQOD - The ones I have seen and stud used on my staff x boxer and the resultant pups are all much taller and not as barrel shaped - they have more defined stomachs.

The delay in replying has been because I have been trying to find a way to link a pic without linking to a FB page that exposes who I am , but I am clueless in finding a way at the moment!