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to never speak to my mum again over this Xmas row!

62 replies

Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 18:37

This'll probably be long... sorry.....
We usually host Christmas at our house, we haven't got a big family and we have the only children. It's usually my parents, my Pil, my single Sil and us, so 7 adults 2 dcs. It's not easy, my dad can be a pain in the backside and we usually have some sort of row, my Pil's are very elderly and quite honestly it's hard work and expensive.
We've done this for the last 9 years!
This year has been bloody awful,... our business is seriously suffering in the recession, we've got money worries galore. We've had no holiday or time off with the boys. I worked all through the sumer holidays and didn't spend any quality time with them at all. On top of that Pil's aren't in the best of health. They moved to be near us a few years ago and there is no other family locally so they come to us every sunday.
I seriously cannot cope with a big Christmas this year, I haven't got the time, the money or the inclination to do it. I just want to sit down with my children and dh to enjoy it for once without cooking, cleaning and running round like a blue arsed fly.
Also, 2 weeks before Christmas is my Pil's 60th wedding anniversary which has been in the planning for 18months (by Mil)
I've also had to give loads of time and attention to this as since it was first organised Mil has had a couple of strokes and Fil has cancer.
If we get to this anniversary with them in one piece it will be a miracle.
My mum is lovely, she adores her grandchildren and doesn't see them as often as she would like as she lives about 3 hours away. I knew she wouldn't be happy about Christmas but when I told her a couple of days ago she said she understood...
So today I get in, message from mum.... I want to talk to you about Christmas or rather the lack of...
I phone her to get an absolute tirade of abuse, I'm so mean, so selfish, how could I deprive her of the highlight of the year, she hasn't been able to sleep because of it, I must have blackmailed the dc's to agree to this...
I said, I understood she was upset, but I've done Xmas for 9 years now and I'd like a year off to enjoy my children before they hit teenagedom!
It descended into a huge blazing row, she used everything she could think of,.. including how could I do this to the Pil's....well not being funny, they have 2 children other than DH, one of them could have them. They come to us every week!
I am soooo angry and so upset.. she has mad me feel like a guilty piece of shit!
There's no way on earth I'm hosting Christmas now...
and in all honesty I can't be bothered to speak to her either.
AIBU?

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Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 19:42

is no-one talking to me now

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FabBakerGirlIsSURVIVED · 02/10/2009 19:46

I will talk to you

Portofino · 02/10/2009 19:47

YANBU! But I think it's not worth a big fall out over. Can you not suggest something a bit less easier going for you. Explain your circumstances. Have lunch at a restaurant? Cook something more simple? Ask everyone to contribute either in cash or food, or help?

I am coming at this from the POV of having 3 relatives who might see their last Xmas this year (though unlikely to be spending the day with any of them)...

FabBakerGirlIsSURVIVED · 02/10/2009 19:47

2 years ago we started having Xmas day on our own and go to my in laws on Boxing day. I had wanted to do this for at least 2 years previously but felt mean them not seeing the kids. Last year was the first Christmas day they had had alone in nearly 40 years and they hated it

diddl · 02/10/2009 19:49

Well, it´s obviously not really worth falling out with your Mum over.

Are you an only child?

I can´t believe everyones be happy to "put on" you for so long.

I know when I was a child my grandparents weren´t there Christmas Day.

Did you Mum also do Christmas for her parents and her in laws every year?

Unless you´ve done it,I don´t see how you can expect others to, or moan if they decide not to for the 10th year in a row!!

megcleary · 02/10/2009 19:49

well done on the 9 years have a year off they will calm down

we try to do one year with mine on year with dh's

and i try to hide in kitchen when they come round

PerryPlatypus · 02/10/2009 19:52

You deserve a medal for surviving the last 9 Christmases with your sanity intact. Sometimes you just have to put your own needs first.

YANBU

Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 19:53

I am being selfish... but the thing is I never have a good christmas myself. Everyone else does, but not me. I don't like my dad much, he's a bully and a control freak. It pisses me off no end, that he hogs the best seat in the house, won't put the remote control down so no-one can watch anything else, picks at the boys constantly.
I want a peaceful, happy Xmas playing with my dc
It's not the cost, mum has always helped in the past, pil too... it's the time and effort. and because they live some distance they have to stay here..
I'm not worried about Pil's... they will be happy with their party and if none of their other children can be arsed to make an effort we will pop over or have them over for boxing day... I'm trying to push my bil to have them..

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ApplePieAndIceCream · 02/10/2009 19:54

I like hassled's idea of sticking to your gins a few too many and you really won't give a shit care

Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 19:56

no I'm not an only child... I have a brother who's a waster (pot)... single, lives in a flat belonging to my parents, comes and goes as he chooses.
He's been living with m&D all this year whilst they renovate his flat as it became so squalid... I reckon he should host their Xmas!

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LilianGish · 02/10/2009 19:56

If PIL aren't bothered, I'd try and get your dad on side. Couldn't he take your mum away for Christmas?

Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 19:57

Did hassled have a typo? I'll go look...
gin will do me
or vodka....

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paranoidmother · 02/10/2009 19:59

Hi I know christmas can be tough as my Mum is quite bad and we have to live with her.

My suggestion is that you spend christmas at home together with your dh and dc. Either before Christmas or boxing day meet up half way with you parents and have a meal so they can see the kids. Then arrange for them to come early new year to stay with you once the dc's have opened presents and can show them to grandparents.

Say this way they still get to see everyone but at present if they come over for christmas they can't stay and you're not cooking at all.

I've always done christmas for the last 17 years at home and my mum is stuck in a rut. We changed it once the dc's arrived to alt. years at home and pil's. now this year we're at home i'm doing a buffet/salad lunch and that's it so I don't have to spend the time in the kitchen. I want to enjoy it, like you do.

Good Luck it's never easy.

What would your parents do if they had to move to france before christmas? Would they still come back or could they stay in a hotel or local b&B?

SquirrelTrap · 02/10/2009 19:59

Can't you just invite your mum over on her own?

You haven't said, but it sounds like otherwise she will be on her own..........and if thats the case your christmas will be ruined with the guilt.

YAB a little U if she is on her own.

Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 20:01

The flat's just gone on the market so they won't be moving this year... That's what amazes me... she's got no qualms about moving to France.. I know we live on the South coast but still..

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Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 20:02

no, no question of mum without dad...
they could be on their own, but they do have a son as well.. and millions of friends (a social life to be envious of)

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Hassled · 02/10/2009 20:03

"Stick to your gins" - I don't think I have ever given better advice on MN .

Ingles2 · 02/10/2009 20:04

right... I'm going to phone her. If I leave it I won't speak to her... (we're both very stubborn )

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LilianGish · 02/10/2009 20:05

Rapidly changing my opinion on this one. The more I read, the more I think you should stick to your guns and do what you want - it sounds like that's what she would do!

LilianGish · 02/10/2009 20:05

Sorry - that should be stick to your gins, obviously.

SquirrelTrap · 02/10/2009 20:11

Life is too short. Literally.

Sidge · 02/10/2009 20:12

YANBU at all.

Stick to your guns (or gins ) as if you start to compromise and negotiate, oh come for Christmas Eve, or we'll do it the weekend before/on Boxing Day or whatever, then you have opened the door for re-negotiation and she will grind you down, and before you know it the original plan will be reinstated!

Stay strong and stand firm. It's your turn to have Christmas exactly as you want it.

My mum is much the same, every year she wants us to go to hers for Christmas - 250 miles away in a non-childproofed smoky house, completely disorganised and she does nothing with my children. I have learned to say no, we want Christmas as we want it and that means alone, in our house, just the 5 of us. No arguments, no negotiation. It's tough but you just have to stay firm. It's not selfish it's about prioritising your family's needs over hers.

diddl · 02/10/2009 20:14

There´s nothing unreasonable about wanting a Christmas just with your family.

Your parents could go out, or even away.

ScaryFucker · 02/10/2009 20:18

we use a variation of the Lavenderkate rule

it is great, I highly recommend it

year 1- inlaws, come to ours, my MIL says she will never host another Xmas , although to be fair when her kids were growing up she always did

year 2- my own family
a) mine
b) my sisters
c) my parents

it works for us

FritesMenthe · 02/10/2009 20:20

This year you have the advantage of a four day holiday to spread the load joy:
Friday - Christmas Day
Saturday - Boxing Day
Sunday
Monday - Bank Holiday
So you could compromise and have everyone over on another day or days, without the expectation of the big meal and being cooped up all day together.

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