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off the back of the other thread, aibu to think that chemical castration for child rapists might be a workable solution

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Maggie34Behave · 01/10/2009 19:56

Obviously, I realise even that is quite drastic, so I'm not talking about people who've downloaded porn, even if it is category 4 or 5. But people who have raped infants.

I am asking the question though... NOt arguing FOR it. Is it workable???

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Jux · 02/10/2009 19:32

I don't think public stoning would be necessary, if we knew who the paedos were - that slightly creepy old man down the road etc. We could just warn our kids, keep them away, and keep an eye on what's going on in our community. As it is, I could have one next door but how would I know?

victoriascrumptious · 02/10/2009 19:39

There is a difference between a child sex offender and a peadophile. The former commits and offence against a child but also has a sexual attraction to adults, the latter has a sexual preference for children

Trying to rehabilitate a peadophile to stop em fancying kids is like trying to therapise a gay person into being straight.

madusa · 02/10/2009 20:15

a bullet in the head

that will give a 100% success rate to stop paedophiles from reoffending.

Did any one watch the dispatches programme on chanel 4 last night? Jaycee Lee was abducted by a known sex offender (rapist) and held for 18 years. He should be shot.

Sidge · 02/10/2009 20:22

Castration, as tempting as it is, isn't really the answer.

The biggest sex organ is the brain - only by removing that will you remove the deviancy.

nannynick · 02/10/2009 20:33

Can you castrate a women?

On Radio4 today they interviewed someone who had done some research (I think in Canada) and said that the victims of abuse were saying that 25% of the perpetrators of the abuse were female. So how will you castrate them?

Jux · 02/10/2009 20:53

Clearly we need to perform lobotomies on a grand scale.

Mamazon · 02/10/2009 20:55

no its not.

It is not 100% effective. It is very difficult to accurately dose and costs a lot of money.

and why only child rapists?

Mamazon · 02/10/2009 20:57

nannynick - Its actually more like 32% of all sexual abuse being commited by females.

SolidGoldBrass · 02/10/2009 21:02

Nope, chemical castration won't work. Drugging people doesn't necessarily change their behaviour and is a very imprecise science anyway. Very intensive psychotherapy is probably the only thing with a chance of working, and it won't work in all cases.
No one has yet found a way to deal with that small minority of extremely dangerous individuals that is not in itself far more damaging to society in general.

scottishmummy · 02/10/2009 21:04

paedophilia deviancy is situated internally within the mindset,the predilection,and frankly castration doesn't remove the urge

Mamazon · 02/10/2009 21:12

ok let me bring out my trusted but well flamed explanation.

Think of paedophilia as a similar thing to homosexuality ( yes yes i know its very different as one involves consenting adults the other doesn't etc etc)

would giving Elton John a pill to stop him being able to get an erection stop him being gay?
It may indeed lower his libido but it wouldn't make him no longer find men attractive.

the same works with chemical casration.

They give the pill which lowers libido and in some cases prevents erection. it does make the person less likely to seek a partner (because for true paedophiles they see it as a mutual loving relationship) but it doesn't mean that they won't still find children attractive and desireable.

paedophilia is a sexual orientation. it is one that as a society we simply cannot accept but it no more "cureable" than homosexuality was 100 years ago.

scottishmummy · 02/10/2009 21:14

psychological urge will not be removed by physical castration

the predilection
urge
morbid fascination remains
as it is internally located

twigsblankets · 02/10/2009 21:16

I'm with madusa and babybarrister

Isn't rape in particular a crime borne out of control, not sexual desire??
If it is, then castration would be ineffectual.

Mamazon · 02/10/2009 21:22

It is called Rape whenever a child is involved because a child is unable to give consent simply because they are a child.

IN most adult cases yes it is about control and power and in some child abuse cases also.

That was why i said that in true paedophilic cases they believe that consent has been given and that they will often believe that it is a mutal loving relationship.

scottishmummy · 02/10/2009 21:29

an adult forced into sexual act doesn't give consent either.force and brutality strip the individual of choice and that is what is brutalising the force and coercion.an aggressor exerting control

Mamazon · 02/10/2009 21:38

no sorry what i meant was that teh reason it is alwasy reffered to as rape when a child is involved is because they are legally not able to give consent

scottishmummy · 02/10/2009 21:42

yes,that is right

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