to constantly get riled........

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by smug MNers who love to tell how well behaved their kids are as a result of their amazing parenting skills.

Exactly my point Riven!

Hecates - maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I actually DO find it hard to to stop DD from doing unacceptable things - and it does seem a bit like rocket science!

she's a wee bit stubborn I seem to remember you saying!

oops. wrong dd yes. the older one. sorry. The dreaded teenage years.

From what I remember you saying, it is outside influences that have caused the trouble there.

How are things in that department anyway?

There are some lazy feckless parents, and there are some children who are difficult to control. When the first group produce the second, it is a nightmare for us all. And I'm talking about NT children, with parents who are not all on benefits (not getting into that one again).

Lock them all up I say!

I would never say that my children are incredibly well behaved due to my parenting skills as although they are OK, they're not the best behaved children.

However, I am proud of mny parenting skills which have helped DD to become less anxious and enjoy life more. I suppose it's a similar thing really.

aaww, I'm sure you're not doing anything 'wrong', HTH. Of course you're not. It's probably you're not a hard unfeeling cow like me I used to think nothing of picking them up and carrying them off. Do as I say or I grab you and take you back to car / home / put you in a headlock

they're a bit heavy to pick up now but as long as they don't realise I'd put my back out these days, we're fine.

Although I am too soft on ds2 last born syndrome.

June? Oh riven, you poor thing. That must be so hard for you.

I still think that one day, when she grows up, she'll look back on all this with deep regret and hopefully come back and try to make it up.

I know. I can't imagine how painful it must be.

And how much you must hate those people who are pouring the poison on.

My mum recently told me that when someone told her how angelic I'd been all day, and she'd said to me "why can't you be like that when you're home with me?"

Apparently I replied, Well if we were naughty outside of the house, you'd be really cross, wouldn't you Mum?"

Precocious bugger wasn't i?

My DS plays me up something rotten at home, yet thankfully outside he is usually an angel. In restaurants etc, especially, but that's cos he loves food mostly!

Why shouldn't parents take credit when they children are well behaved?

OT? over the top? I disagree. Under the circumstances I'd say it's positively restrained.

Ah. Now that makes more sense. No missing T