to think that a 12m old should sleep at some point in the day...

[BintOfBohemia]

without making such a fricking song and dance about it?

He's tired, why doesn't he just go to sleep? Tis that simple.

hard not to make a song and a dance about things when you're tired! Sympathy

Thanks - I don't normally get stressed about it, but have just fallen and cut my arm because of rushing up the stairs to go and deal with him.

He has at least gone to sleep now. He's been awake for 6 hours, you'd think he would just pass out, wouldn't you!?

yeah but he sounds like my dd. She likes her bed but when she's too tired you can't get her anywhere near it without a scratching, kicking, screaming tantrum... So frustrating when you know that a sleep is what will help them!

Hmm, you should meet my 16wo DS who can go the ENTIRE day (from 7am in the morning to 11pm at night) with just one hour worth of naps. And no, he doesn't sleep through either (currently feeding every 2.5 hours). I feel your pain

And yes, I've tried everything (winding down after just 1 hour of being awake, rocking/cuddling, swaddling etc) I'm starting to accept that I shall simply have to get used to functioning on minimal sleep till he changes his mind. Still makes me though.

Hmm, you should meet my 16wo DS who can go the ENTIRE day (from 7am in the morning to 11pm at night) with just one hour worth of naps. And no, he doesn't sleep through either (currently feeding every 2.5 hours). I feel your pain

And yes, I've tried everything (winding down after just 1 hour of being awake, rocking/cuddling, swaddling etc) I'm starting to accept that I shall simply have to get used to functioning on minimal sleep till he changes his mind. Still makes me though.

Oops Obviously not functioning as well as I'd like to think

Oooh yes, I remember this ...YANBU, it's very frustrating!

DH and I ended up taking them out in the pushchair after lunch every day till they nodded off, then bring them home, lie them back and stick a blanket on them while we had a cup of tea. Can only do this if your living arrangements allow - we had level access on the ground floor. And it made us take a walk. It did seem a bit stupid that our kids would only go to sleep if taken for a pushchair stroll, but sometimes you just have to be short-term!

Today was the first time I tried to get DD to nap in her cot for ages. It worked but I am not banking on it being more than a fluke.
I usually rely on the pushchair too.

A friend has a DS who, when he is tired, finds his blanket and lies down on the floor. How I wish.