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Aibu To not really understand why so many children have food allergies?

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daftpunk · 29/07/2009 10:32

Babies are weaned later ......? I didn't know anyone allergic to nuts or milk when I was at school, can someone explain it?

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violet2006 · 29/07/2009 21:48

I am 30 and was allergic to milk, nut, fish etc at school and still suffer from allergies. I have always had eczema so I think it is probably genetic...luckily my children don't have any allergies!

daftpunk · 29/07/2009 21:50

princess....i don't think i've ever spoken to you before...?

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PrincessToadstool · 29/07/2009 21:52

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daftpunk · 29/07/2009 21:54

can i ask you one question...were you on my special needs thread..?

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PrincessToadstool · 29/07/2009 21:59

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 29/07/2009 21:59

you have special needs, or you started a thread on special needs?

Why am I asking?

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daftpunk · 29/07/2009 22:02

i'm not linking it...you must be joking....i'm not in the mood for another kicking..

sorry princess...mistaken identity...

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EmmaPr · 29/07/2009 22:05

My dd1 has a severe peanut allergy and I didn't eat nuts at all during pregnancy (even tho I craved them). I ate nuts during my 2nd pregnancy, after advice from the specialists at Addenbrookes, and DD2 has no allergies at all. This is only a study of 2 so not scientifically robust (!) but it is now thought, as some others have said, that we are being overprotective during pregnancy and foetuses are not being 'challenged' with nuts so that when they are born their systems have not built up any immunity to the nut protein so they develop an allergy to it.

I also read somewhere that more pollution from diesel fuel has caused more allergies now than there used to be.

I agree, Morloth, there is alot of conflicting advice out there.

2shoes · 29/07/2009 22:05

Please don't drag that dredful thread up.....

VeniVidiVickiQV · 29/07/2009 22:08

You Are Being Very Ignorant

anecdotal evidence based on two siblings isn't reliable, however, it does demonstrate the findings that first siblings are more likely to suffer allergies than subsequent children.

As is the case in our house.

hunkermunker · 29/07/2009 22:09

"Whatever you do, don?t congratulate yourself too much or berate yourself either ? your
choices are half chance, so are everybody else?s."

Beachcomber · 29/07/2009 22:11

Well I have a child who developed multiple allergies to foods that I ate as a breast feeding mother within a couple of weeks of her DTP jab. With her second jab she developed yet more allergies.

I was on a major exclusion diet and DD only had about 12 foods that she could safely eat up until the age of about 2.

I have spent 5 years reading about this and I am 99% sure that vaccines are to blame in what happened to my DD and that they play a major role in the general increase in allergies.

Obviously misinformed and knee jerk reactions to anything which questions vaccines make it hard to have a sensible discussion about this sort of thing but the fact is that there is a whole bunch of science which points firmly to multiple vaccinations as being the only plausible explanation we have.

Regarding the worrying increase in serious peanut allergies I know that there has been research and indeed patents placed for using peanut oil as a vaccine adjuvant. Whether this peanut oil is actually used in childhood vaccines or not has been impossible for me to find out. I contacted the (French) company that manufactured the vaccine my child reacted to and they refused to disclose this information as they claim that it is a commercial secret.

Took me a long while to find stuff out but anyone who spends a bit of time looking into vaccine adjuvants, aluminium and how it stimulates the immune system, pertussis and how it increases gut permeability and so on will find plenty of interesting stuff to read.

daftpunk · 29/07/2009 22:11

why is it ignorant to ask a question..?...what do you talk about..the weather?

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hunkermunker · 29/07/2009 22:12

Depends how you ask it, DP - you asked it so you could brag about your own superior parenting, it would seem.

Hence the quote I just posted.

daftpunk · 29/07/2009 22:15

hunker....i can't help it if i have four children without any allergies...do i have to apologize for that?...no i don't.

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hunkermunker · 29/07/2009 22:16

Oh, you really DO think it's because of your superior parenting.

Yes, Very Well Done, DP.

daftpunk · 29/07/2009 22:19

no, i don't think that...maybe i just got lucky?

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FattipuffsandThinnifers · 29/07/2009 22:20

No DP no-one is saying you have to apologise for having dc without allergies. Simply that their not having allergies is almost certainly nothing to do with what you did or didn't do, so there aren't really grounds for congratulating yourself either.

Beachcomber · 29/07/2009 22:22

Oh and to add to pagwatch's words, fuck off with your blame culture.

I have come to the conclusions that I have not because I am looking for something to blame but because i was looking for ways to save my child's destroyed immune sytem, gut and health and quite possibly her life.

Note, nowt to do with MMR/Wakefield and the utter crap spouted by the likes of Goldacre, Deer and Fitzpatrick.

I'm talking about pertussis, aluminium, gut permeability and the overstimulating effect of vaccine adjuvants on the immature and developing infant immune system (an immune system that i have read countless times is little understood by medical science).

Quite honestly surely the most obvious trigger to look at in an explosion of immune system disorders is an environmental factor which affects the immune system?

BTW the IOM openly state that the reckon that vaccines are to blame but that they don't really give a shit.

Sorry not to mince my words but have got PMT and am sick of skirting around this issue. If ever the MN phrase "no shit sherlock" was appropriate it is in the case of;

messing around with undeveloped and little understood immune systems with crude drugs which interfere with the immune system = unforeseen consequences on said immune system.

No shit!

hunkermunker · 29/07/2009 22:23

I'm sure there are areas where you and your children are thoroughly outshone.

Empathy, for instance, in the case of you.

Ought I to start a thread called "AIBU to not really understand why so many posters called Daftpunk are incapable of understanding other people's situations and post to blame them for their challenges"?

Beachcomber · 29/07/2009 22:26

Hey you know what Daftpunk, I breast fed both my kids for two years, let both of them eat worms, dustballs, dirt, etc and I have one child who could die if she ate an avocado and the other one who is in robust good health with a minor and decreasing intolerance to cow's milk protein.

God even our allergist admits that if we want to keep DD2 healthy we should step away from the jabs that so damaged her sister.

PinkTulips · 29/07/2009 22:27

for us?

if dp had lived 50 years earlier he would have died at 8 when his asthma kicked in and wouldn't have lived to breed.

natural selection.

but these days we have medicines to keep him alive to pass his funky dna on to our kids

daftpunk · 29/07/2009 22:33

beachcomber;.....every case is different, obv if there are underlying heath problems MMR is not advisable..

hunker....this is a thread about food allergies...i'm not declaring war on russia....keep things in perspective...

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