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To actually feel a little SORRY for Liz Jones

132 replies

LibrasBiscuitsOfFortune · 27/07/2009 07:42

Here:
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1202314/Liz-Jones-I-loathe-smug-modern-mums--I-want-one.html

she gets linked to quite a lot on Mumsnet (which is why I end up reading her drivel, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it).

She just seems so UNHAPPY. I think she doth protest too much about not wanting children, I think she may have the body of a skinny 17 r old but she has the personality of medusa, she has this irrational NEED to slag off and denigrate anyone who doesn't have her lifestyle. I am surprise she HAS any friends if this is the way she talks about them in the media, part of me wonders if before every column she emails them and says "don't worry about what I am going to say about you this week it's only so I can afford more designer handbags - love you really".
However I am in a forgiving mood this morning, so instead of thinking all of this is because she is not a nice person, I am going to put it down to the fact she must be dreadfully unhappy with her life.

So AIBU to feel sorry for Liz Jones or is she really just a harriden?

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expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 08:49

PMSL @ the comments.

TsarChasm · 27/07/2009 08:55

Lol! Surely she writes all this crap just to get some sort of reaction.

Who are all these mothers who invade her animal sanctuary anyway? Do they form an orderly queue to be insulted? Who would want to be her friend? She just uses her relationships (if they even exist) as fodder for her column.

I'm starting to suspect none of this is real and is just written to get people like us talking about Liz Jones.

If it is real, then she needs some sort of help. Either way I think we need to look away (complulsively awful though she is)

Hollyoaks · 27/07/2009 09:01

Its worth reading for a laugh, no-one this vile could actually be writing from experience or reality. I think she's just creating articles that will get a reaction.

GirlsAreLoud · 27/07/2009 09:01

What a strange woman. For someone who doesn't like kids she seems to have a lot to say about them.

GirlsAreLoud · 27/07/2009 09:02

"I believe that women should pay for the services of a midwife and health visitor."

Oh good god give me strength.

bumpsoon · 27/07/2009 09:03

The most intolerant are often the most ignorant

wildfig · 27/07/2009 09:04

I have wondered on occasion whether Liz Jones is a real person, or just a character created by the Mail, in manner of Bridget Jones. The 'Liz' we see in the photos is actually a perfectly happy dental technician called Carol, who gets paid £100 for posing with horses, collie dogs, errant husbands, fat-measuring scales, etc, while the copy is knocked out by any of the Mail staff, who have the style off pat and can make the copy as outrageous as they like, without having to go to the bother of luring in a normal punter and sensationalising the resulting interview (cf, "I missed the boat with kids, says selfish bitch career girl"... "My husband is rubbish - what can I do?" ... "My mother is my best friend... and I hate her!" etc).

At least, I hope she's a made up character. If I knew anyone who hated themselves as much as she does, and insisted on laying it out for the world to agree, I'd stage an intervention.

claraquack · 27/07/2009 09:06

I just can't believe anyone can be so rude about their friends in such a very public way as this. Unless of course it is all made up. Or she doesn't care if she loses all her friends after they read what she has written.

I just kept thinking of Julie Burchill while I was reading it - someone who is basically desperate for attention.

Sad.

expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 09:10

Oh, and yes, most people have children just to keep a man.

sayanything · 27/07/2009 09:10

What a horrid article. I wonder how much of it is just posturing though. I've never met the woman, but it does strike me that, as Pruneurs said, she is one of a breed of columnists whose job is to be controversial.

I think Burchill truly fed off the shocked indignation, but Liz Jones and India Knight to some extent (although I have more time for her, because she can be funny and writes well), come off as controversial-by-numbers - pushing the same buttons over and over and getting a reaction every time, because that's what they're paid to do.

GirlsAreLoud · 27/07/2009 09:12

She's not even controversial though, childless people have been whingeing about families forever.

The bit about her friend's stomach though? I had a stomach like that before I got pregnant! What's it got to do with her?

LibrasBiscuitsOfFortune · 27/07/2009 09:13

oh god I've just read the comments and there are people out there who agree, think Liz is sensible and ENJOY her writing. Maybe I should reserve some of my sorriness (!) for them.

This made me lol
"I am a dog lover too, dogs require love, a couple of meals a day and a good walk. I suppose if I were a self-absorbed woman with a Peter Pan complex that would be all I could handle too"

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GirlsAreLoud · 27/07/2009 09:13

Libra that was my fave comment too!

bumpsoon · 27/07/2009 09:14

Shes not an awfully good writer either is she ? ive seen more eloquent rants on AIBU

yama · 27/07/2009 09:16

Wildfig - sadly no. I saw her once on The Wright Stuff. I was amazed at how old she looked. It was back when her column had a cartoon drawing of her recent escapades and she looked quite young.

I read her column at my parents house from their Daily Mail you understand.

ssd · 27/07/2009 09:21

she sounds really sad

Stigaloid · 27/07/2009 09:24

I feel a little sorry for her because she has wasted her life and moans about it and yet has also lived it richly. Pretty pathetic creature that deserves a lot of pity. She has priorities all wrong and can't get through a single sentence without name dropping which label she is wearing or feeding her animals organic marks and spencers food (rolls eyes)

Devongirl · 27/07/2009 09:31

What a horrible woman to talk about her 'friends' that way. Surely it's all made up as no people with children would WANT to go to her house with it's enormous garden and lakes if she was there would they?

expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 09:34

Hope she realises that, try as she might, her skin is going to get saggy and aged.

LibrasBiscuitsOfFortune · 27/07/2009 09:39

Expat I am reasonable certain that when the time comes cosmetic surgery will be resorted to and we will then be treated to a column on how all her friends are jealous because she still looks HOT and all her friends children have no manners because they keep whispering that she looks scary and is that what really happens when the wind changes.

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squeaver · 27/07/2009 09:42

I know people who do think like she does, though.

MissM · 27/07/2009 09:45

Oh. My. God. Is this woman for real? I've never read her before (have no intention of doing so again). Loved the bit about having a pond - yes actually, and two lakes. Is that supposed to make us envious? Why do people pay for such crap?

Obviously she was ideally place to adopt an Indian child, seeing as she was willing to teach herself Hindi an' all.

LibrasBiscuitsOfFortune · 27/07/2009 09:51

Are they much fun to go drinking with Squever?

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expatinscotland · 27/07/2009 09:54

Thing is, though, Libra, even cosmetic surgery can't stop the crepe, IYKWIM.

It happens to us all.

But at least, I've got children.

squeaver · 27/07/2009 09:55

Well yes actually as long as you don't discuss children.

I think we'd all be surprised by how common her views are among people who don't have children. They just don't express them as vociferously as she does.

I'm not defending her. She's a loon. I've met her and she's the most self-obsessed person I've ever come across.

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