people smoking in cars with children

[motherbeyond]

Am guessing most people feel this same about this subject.I was just out in our village with my 2.A car pulled up and two women got out of the car smoking.Fair enough.They then proceeded to open the back doors and let two primary school children out and a toddler.This makes my blood boil.What are these people thinking.It's bad enough when they are walking along pushing a buggy with a fag in their hand,at least they're outside.To trap children ina car and force them to inhale fumes from their death sticks,is beyond comprehension.one word springs to mind.scum.Harsh,but true imo

[onagar]

HerBeatitudeLittleBella, Thanks for the link. That's much more like it.

Reading it now, but first good news is how it goes to essentially zero in between cigerettes providing you open a window. That will put an end to a lot of stuff about it lingering and catching cancer in a room that has a coat in that was once in a room where people had smoked.

Actually the text claims it doesn't go down so fast, but the text is all messed up isn't it. They pasted in one set of figures and then didn't like them and pasted in a different set.

The text also claims that having the window half open was worse than having it fully open which is a strange idea unless they mean having it open more lets more traffic fumes in. I could believe that.

[posiedullardparker]

I think 'scum' when I see it too. How bad for health it is with a window open I don't know, but parents thoughtless enough to smoke with dcs in the car aren't not going to smoke when it's raining needing the window closed.

Why do they need to do it?

I always say something when I see it, too.

[posiedullardparker]

If you smoke in the car with your dcs then you are a twat.

[sweetkitty]

Sorry but window open or not I am with posie completely.

And if the windows are open it IME it blows all the ash in the back - nice

[beanieb]

I was behind a woman in a car the other day with a 'mum to be' sticker on her car. She was flicking fag ash out the wondow. i took a picture!

[beanieb]

window

[posiedullardparker]

I told a woman smoking in her car that she shouldn't smoke with children in the car, she said it was none of my business and I said 'someone has to think about your son's lungs and the risk of cancer because you don't'.
This was a great plan, until I noticed two more sets of traffic lights! At the last set she got out of car and effing at me she charged over to my car, I wound up my windows and put 999 on my mobile and showed her.

I want a bumper sticker next time!!

[letsgostrawberrypicking]

I think that is very brave of you posie. It may even have made her think when she calmed down!

Dh never smoked but was brought up with smoking parents (am sure they were kind enough to open the car windows too [hmm)

His mum in her 70's going strong (now an ex-smoke) Dh on the other hand has developed throat cancer at the age of 42.He is, to quote his oncologist "really unlucky" as it's a cancer normally associated with much older people who have smoked and drink a lot. Who knows what the real link is? No-one will ever know, but why chance it?

[FairLadyRantALot]

littleboyblue, best of luck with stopping smoking....it can be difficult, BUT it is really worth it, imo

[shockers]

YANBU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HerBeatitudeLittleBella]

Hmm, it goes down to essentially zero, but while you are actually smoking, pollution levels are way higher than they should be. And it is bloody unpleasant for children even with the window open - I remember it well, coughing and wheezing, with the windows down.

[Wigglesworth]

I agree it is rank and I personally wouldn't let anyone smoke in the car with my DS, but they are their children.
My Mum used to do it all the time with us and with the windows shut and also in the house, I must have reeked of stale fags when I was little. Incidentally she gave up smoking when I was 16, better late than never I suppose and too late to stop me spending all my childhood inhaling her fag rot.

[onagar]

"she said it was none of my business"

She was right. We don't need random people stopping us in the street. I always seemed to get the loon on the bus who wanted to tell me about his ferret/operation/hobby/whatever

[flubdub]

SMOKING
IS
GROSS
FULL STOP

Smoking when pregnant - sick (sorry)
Smoking around kids? - Either stupid, selfish, or just uneducated. I am not sure.

I hate smoking. My father has just become an amputee through smoking.
I grew up breathing in his smoke, and although it never did a lot of kids harm, there is no denying there is a link to cot death through it.
It causes ear infections and asthma in children (my partners little boy, who isnt mine, has just been found to have asthma. He is four. But it wouldnt have anything to do with the 40 fags a day he dealt with whilst he was in his mothers tummy, or the 40 fags a day he has inhaled since being born, would it?

I dont understand why people would want to shorten their lives when they have children?

[AngelNanny]

OP I expect, there are somethings you do that people would describe you as scum for doing.

Their Kids, their fags, their cars, their addictions. Nothing will be done about it. However you are not meant to smoke whilst drivng anyway.

[onagar]

Yes everything bad is caused by smoking. Us uneducated people just don't get it do we.

[flubdub]

Erm, smoking CAN cause asthma, cot death, exma (as its related to asthma) and ear infection.
I doubt that by being sulky about it, you will make the facts any different.

[flubdub]

^excema

[ray81]

I smoke in my car with both windows open when i am on my own. When DD is in the car I do not smoke. I smoke in the garden not in the house and when DD comes into the garden i stand away from her.
However i did smoke when i was pregnant and i realy hate myself for it now, i wish i hadnt there is no excuse i knew the harm it could do but i still did it. I was very young and DD was unplanned but realy not much of an excuse, but there is nothing wrong with my DD she is perfectly healty, has never had a chest infection or ear infection, shes had a cough twice, she never gets colds and the only illness shes had is chicken pox. I have a friend who has never smoked and her children have asthma and infections all the time. This is not an excuse for doing it and i would never smoke whilst pregnant again i know it could have easily been my DD that was always poorly and i would never have forgiven myself if it was but sometimes it is just plain bad luck.

Smokers know that it is bad for them, they know it smells awful, they know it could kill them, but i would have to say as a smoker i pretend i dont know these things and stick my head in the sand. when i do think about them like now i feel bad and i dont want to feel bad who does. I know the solution is to give up but it is very hard.
Personally i wish they would make it illegal and then i would have to give up no choice.

But OP YANBU it is crap, i wouldnt say they were scum though. I have a friend who smokes she doesnt smoke in her car, she smoked when she was pg though and smokes at the back door so the smoke goes in her house where her babies are so i think shes just as bad.

[Noonki]

nothing to do with education Ongar, all to do with caring about your children's health.

[onagar]

Noonki, Wigglesworth mentioned that we were probably uneducated hence the comment.

And the obsessive do not really contribute to childrens safety as they tend to pick one cause of illness and pursue that at the expense of all else.

Do you drive a car btw?

[Noonki]

onagar...I do drive a car and presume that you will then say that pollution is adding to poor childhood health, and also potential danger of death/injury etc.

And you have a point!

[onagar]

And the way we have set things up you probably NEED a car and have little choice.

I just get fed up that over the years one thing at a time gets made into the root of all evil. Smoking is bad for smokers and probably is slightly bad in confined spaces over long periods for non smokers. So are a lot of things though and I could pick on alcohol and call that the root of all evil or a lot of other things.

I just wish people wouldn't get focused on one thing like it was the only danger and I'm not happy about those who insult strangers over it.

[flubdub]

slightly bad??
Hahahaha

[HerBeatitudeLittleBella]

Well smoking isn't just bad for those who do it, is it; once again, that old friend research, has shown that one of the most important variables as to whether a child will smoke or not, is whether his/ her parents do. So if you smoke, whether you do it in the car or not, you are shortening the odds of whether your children do. That for me, is quite a convincing argument as to why I as a parent shouldn't smoke - I would hate my DC's to.

As for the root of all evil thing, well, this is a thread about smoking so we're focussing on it. I'm sure we'll be just as energetic in our condemnation of drinking/ fruit shoots/ whatever the latest evil is...

But yeah, insulting strangers in the street is rarely a Good Thing.