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To assume that, at some point, we are going to get swine flu and to be really quite scared about it

69 replies

imaynotbeperfectbutimokmummy · 02/07/2009 22:14

I feel like i wish i had it already - the longer time goes on, the more anxious i am getting. I have health anxiety and this is starting to fry my head. My DD starts school in september, so she will be mixing with loads of new children - im fretting already.

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Longtalljosie · 03/07/2009 09:21

Flu is horrible. I caught it when there was an outbreak of a certain strain in 1995/6 - can't remember precisely when, but I was at university and it had asthma-like symptoms which were alarming - I was feeling dreadful and wheezing and all my friends were saying "look at me, longtalljosie, where's your inhaler? Is it in your room?" and I couldn't breathe to tell them I wasn't asthmatic!

I then was taken off to bed and couldn't really move for about 4/5 days. It's not the sort of thing you can conquer, like you can a cold.

As a member of the media, but not a health specialist, all I can say is that the government doesn't think we've been overplaying it - and god knows it would say so if it did. Yesterday's press conference was rather alarming. But it does seem so far that the government has prepared for this pretty well. Mostly I suspect because it was expecting H5N1 to mutate.

It does seem to be the case that it's mild at the moment, but the more it spreads, the more likely it is to mutate and become more serious. It's also likely to have a very large impact on the economy and place a big strain on the NHS. It's also the case that the hot weather and sunshine is making it harder for it to spread - and come the autumn with cooler, damper weather, it will spread a lot more quickly.

My baby will be just weeks old then and yes, I am concerned. But there's nothing we can do about this other than encourage co-workers not to be heroes and struggle in to work if they're feeling ill. I think bosses can do a lot to say the usual work-macho thing does not apply at the moment.

Madmentalbint · 03/07/2009 09:36

I've only had flu once and it was awful. It's not at all like a cold IMO. When I have a cold I can keep on top of it by taking paracetamol and drinking plenty of fluids and resting. Even a really horrible cold I can still get the children to school....even if I feel absolutely awful. When I had flu I literally couldn't get out of bed. Not for anything!

Madmentalbint · 03/07/2009 09:38

Sorry, missed the whole point of the OP.
YANBU. I am a bit concerned too. I know the chances are that most of us will recover with no problems at all but I'm still concerned for those who wont. I'm still hoping it will all come to nothing though.

imaynotbeperfectbutimokmummy · 03/07/2009 10:02

Pacific, I know what you mean, i am not ill informed though, thats the thing, i actually have a medical background and SHOULD KNOW BETTER! I know all what you say is correct - but that doesn't stop me worrying. I know that that juggernault isn't going to mount the pavement and wipe out me and DD and that the group of 12 year olds isn't going to try and kidnap her from me, but it doesn't stop me worrying .

I think the media have a lot to answer for. I think the fact it is "swine flu" and not just "flu" makes us paranoid - like its some sort of supermutated flu. The evidence seems to show that actually, its not so bad.

I think that the scaremongering that autumn will bring about worse cases is a bit crap too - yeah more people will get it and it will have more time to "mutate". But mutations are random, it doesn't necessarily mean it will become more dangerous. It might howver re infect people who have already had it, but again, its random who knows.

See, I can be really rational when i think straight.

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Stigaloid · 03/07/2009 10:09

I'm worried about it because i am currently 16 weeks pregnant so by the time flu season its in a couple of months i will be near end of 2nd early 3rd trimester - not a great time to be pregnant and vulnerable with weak immune system. I am also worried my 2 year old will then get it.

nimnom · 03/07/2009 10:19

I wasn't too worried until my ds1 was diagnosed with Rheumatic Fever last week. I'm presuming that puts him in the "vulnerable" group, so swine flu, along with the other worries we have, has become a worry. Having said that, there is not a lot we can do apart from keeping a particular eye out for symptoms.

bumpsoon · 03/07/2009 10:21

Swine flu is no worse than normal seasonal flu ,in many respects not as bad , given the many thousands of people who die every year from seasonal flu and the what 2 people who have sadly died from swine flu in this country .I get really angry at the media sensationalism of it TBH.

katiestar · 03/07/2009 10:33

One of our neighbours who had confirmed swine flu managed to take his dog for a 10 mile work while he had it ,so couldn't have been that bad.

GetOrfMoiLand · 03/07/2009 10:35

DD was diagnosed with Influenza A in September, it was empatically not like a cold at all, no sneezing or anything, just chronic joint pain, very wheezy chest (she has asthma as well so that didn't help), headache and fever. She was in bed for about 10 days, hardly ate anything in this time and was very ill.

It took a while for her chest to completely clear up, but she made a full recover bless her. But it was a horrible thing to see.

I always thought that flu would be like a bad cold (having never had it), but it is nothing like it.

I am concerned about the swine flu thing, as even though the chances are that dd is no more susceptibe to succumbing to the flu that anyone else, I would much rather she didn't catch flu again. GP already advised last year that she have the flu jab this winter, and I certainly am going to have it done.

Funnily enough not worried about catching it myself, very seldom get ill.

peppapighastakenovermylife · 03/07/2009 10:57

I am more scared about peoples experiences of normal flu. So many people seem to be really badly hit by flu. On here, and in real life I have heard many people say that they couldnt move for days / couldnt get out of bed / woke up two weeks later and couldnt remember what had happened.

As a mum I dont worry about it happening to me for my sake as such - but what on earth happens if you are bed bound and delirious like that? How on earth do you look after your children if you cant move or remember your own name?!

I have never had flu or known anyone who has had it - well certainly not like that. I have had flu like symptoms before (with bad mastitis) and certainly wouldnt have got out of bed voluntarily for £100 but I knew who I was and obviously got up to my children.

Has anyone suffered like that with flu since having children? Or is it just a case of if you have to you manage?

peppapighastakenovermylife · 03/07/2009 10:57

I am more scared about peoples experiences of normal flu. So many people seem to be really badly hit by flu. On here, and in real life I have heard many people say that they couldnt move for days / couldnt get out of bed / woke up two weeks later and couldnt remember what had happened.

As a mum I dont worry about it happening to me for my sake as such - but what on earth happens if you are bed bound and delirious like that? How on earth do you look after your children if you cant move or remember your own name?!

I have never had flu or known anyone who has had it - well certainly not like that. I have had flu like symptoms before (with bad mastitis) and certainly wouldnt have got out of bed voluntarily for £100 but I knew who I was and obviously got up to my children.

Has anyone suffered like that with flu since having children? Or is it just a case of if you have to you manage?

peppapighastakenovermylife · 03/07/2009 10:57

I am more scared about peoples experiences of normal flu. So many people seem to be really badly hit by flu. On here, and in real life I have heard many people say that they couldnt move for days / couldnt get out of bed / woke up two weeks later and couldnt remember what had happened.

As a mum I dont worry about it happening to me for my sake as such - but what on earth happens if you are bed bound and delirious like that? How on earth do you look after your children if you cant move or remember your own name?!

I have never had flu or known anyone who has had it - well certainly not like that. I have had flu like symptoms before (with bad mastitis) and certainly wouldnt have got out of bed voluntarily for £100 but I knew who I was and obviously got up to my children.

Has anyone suffered like that with flu since having children? Or is it just a case of if you have to you manage?

MummyDragon · 03/07/2009 14:35

My DH and I both had flu a few weeks ago, which I guess could have been swine flu. A mild cold/sore throat for a couple of days, a bit breathless, then awful joint pain and feeling like a rag doll for a couple of days, plus very spaced out/lightheaded. Our kids didn't seem to catch it, although they have had minor colds since then. It didn't stop is getting up and looking after the children, and it wasn't scary, but it was very unpleasant. It took me about 10 minutes to walk up the stairs as the back/hip pain was so intense. No streaming nose/sneezing though.

peppapig - it depends on how ill you are and who else you have to support you, to be honest. We were fortunate that, although DH and I were both ill at the same time, he was off work anyway (it was half term and he's a teacher) so we both mucked in with the kids and sort of "managed" them together. Shame half-term was a write-off though!

I caught a D&V bug from my kids a couple of years ago, several days after eveyone else in the family had fully recovered from it of course, and I had to book the kids (then aged 3 and 1) in for 2 additional days at nursery at a cost of £150 because I honestly couldn't even crawl across the floor and DH was unable to take time off work as 2 colleagues were already off sick/on paternity leave etc ... nightmare!

MummyDragon · 03/07/2009 14:38

Sorry, meant to say to the OP: if what I had last month really was swine flu, it wasn't as bad as I had been expecting it to be ... I think you're right that we need to think of it as "flu" rather than "swine flu" - the pig/cross-species-mutation connotation makes it very spooky, I agree.

pooka · 03/07/2009 14:39

I'm also assuming that we're going to get it at some point. I just wish that we could get it over and done with - what worries me is the potential that in late August/early September the family could be knocked for six, when dd will be starting Year 2, and I will be having dc3 on or around 4th September.

So rather nervous of possibility that I could get it when pregnant or immediately post-natal, and certainly that a newborn might get it.....

DH says I'm silly for worrying. And I'm not obsessive. Just is a niggling concern for me.

jarbelle · 03/07/2009 14:46

Hmm, I wasn't worried about it until last night when talking to my friend on the phone. She is a virologist - speciality, pig viruses.

Now I'm bricking it and googling 1918 didn't help..

Morloth · 03/07/2009 14:52

By all accounts it is less serious than "normal" flu.

Tortington · 03/07/2009 14:57

why specifically are you bricking it?

i need to know details i am confused.

i read that 10,000 people in the uk die of normal flu.

and that swine flu has shit all on that.

i need to know whether to worry or not.

i am not worried at the moment becuase i do not buy or subscribe to media hype

I think its the summer - they can't pick on politicians becuase they are all on hols - so the media are hyping something that is not hype worthy.

or am i worng

if i am wrong - please specify why i should be scared

minouminou · 03/07/2009 15:01

You gotta tell us why you're bricking it, Jarbelle.....what did your friend say?
Is it about the potential mutations? Effect on young/old/immune-suppressed/deficient people?

jarbelle · 03/07/2009 15:07

Bricking it because my friend said this has the chance of turning very nasty if it mutates. This could be the start of a first wave of flu which could have a hiigh mortality rate.

Trying to calm down by telling myself she also worried when bird flu showed it's head.

I don't subscribe to media hype either, in fact I don't even watch the news.

KayHarkerIsKayHarker · 03/07/2009 15:12

I'm a little concerned as Dd2 has asthma, and also if there's a bug, I always get the worst of it. I'm worried about having a house full of poorly children while being very poorly myself.

I am not a news junkie, but the little I have read makes me a little paranoid that it's something that's creeping up on us.

serenity · 03/07/2009 15:19

I've been avoiding over-reading the news on swine flu tbh, but all this stuff lately about people having it mildly made me actually look up the info on symptoms etc.

I think me, Dd and DS2 may have had it very mildly a couple of weeks ago (fever, headaches, joint pain and respiratory problems) It wasn't bad enough to go to the GP (we have asthma, I'm used to the DCs getting ill, then hacking their lungs out) but I'm feeling a bit guilty now.

clam · 03/07/2009 15:31

We're due to go away on holiday abroad in 2 weeks. Would we be allowed to travel if, say, one of us was recovering? How long after a bout would be "safe." And if one of us had had it, but noone else had yet, should we stil go? What if we contract it whilst away?

GAAAHH! But really, what if....

Habbibu · 03/07/2009 16:05

The problem with H1N1 is, as others have said, it's new, so there's little population-level immunity, and that it may mutate with other viruses to produce more troublesome strains.

The main problem for the population as a whole isn't to the individuals catching it - it's a PITA, sure, and dangerous if you have underlying health conditions - but that lots of people laid low for a couple of weeks or having to take time off work to look after sick friends/relatives/children. That is more likely, and it's what most flu planning is about - how do you keep things like schools, universities, hospitals running with (say) 50% of staff off over a few weeks?

The bird flu "hype" kicked off a lot of this planning, so the bonus is that many places were pretty much up to speed on their plans before H1N1 emerged. No guarantees, mind, but I know that my sector (HE) is much better placed to deal with it than it was a couple of years ago.

I wouldn't really worry on a personal level - good hand hygiene very important, esp if you're in a higher risk group, but to most individuals it won't present too much of a problem.

KayHarkerIsKayHarker · 03/07/2009 17:20

Thanks Hab, that does a long way to allaying the nagging fears.

breaks out the anti-bac handwash

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