Parent & child car parking spaces...

[Shellseeker]

I was called a sad cow & told to get a life by a particularly unpleasant man yesterday when I pointed out to him how unhelpful it was to park in the parent space at the supermarket when he quite obviously didn't have a child. He assured me he did have a child so was completely within his rights to park there, it was just that he'd left it at home with its mother (doh!)
He did move his car though!

Our Sainsbury's are the same, apparently you get fined £50 for abusing the spaces, and a child means under 12 years - maybe they have picked that age as that is around when children stop using car seats - easy to peer in the window and check if there is one there?
It is usually quite good in our Sainsburys as the disbled and P&C spaces are in a (tiny) separate carpark, so it is particualrly obvious if you park there without being entitled to it. I can almost always find a space.

vicky275 bad idea, our local sainsburys has p&t and disabled parking and the bays are shared. it doesn't work (as I found out whilst trying to park and having to wait for a space) disabled spaces have to be provided by law, P&t bays don't

I asked once in Asda (and it works the same way at Sainsburys) and they said that people only get fined if Euro Car Parks (I think that is the name) who own the car park have a parking officer there and they spot someone doing it. Since they come round about once a day it doesn't really work as a system. The people who work in the shop have no authority to fine people.

What would work best would be if there were no selfish people in the world

our local sainsbury has a number of P&T spaces at the rear of the car park. Sorts that one out nicely.

Here here Riven - P&T spaces are a nice extra if available. Disabled places are essential. Equating the 2 as equally important is completely bonkers.

No it wouldn't be good at all if disabled spaces were taken up by some P&C space users.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind at all, but I'm equally sure that people who have disabilities would mind the reduced number of spaces available to them.

P&C spaces are a convenience. Disabled parking spaces are a necessity.

I had a discussion about this with guy in his sixties (?) today in Tesco. He came back with his mini trolley. Mindful of making a tit of myself I glanced in his car to make sure he didn't have a disabled badge or car seats (with wife following with kids or something!) Nope. All on his own. When I pointed out to him spaces were for parents and toddlers he told me he had every right to park there as his car had been damaged in the car park before. 'Besides I've got kids. They're just not with me' he added. GAH!

I did want to add that his door was probably damaged by some poor mother who couldn't open her door wide enough as all the P & T's spaces had been denteddamaged, but I thought the irony would be lost on him.

Sorry that should read taken, not dentedamaged. Think it's time for bed!

As I parked up a 2-door German sportscar in the Parent & Child space in Sainsbury's in New Cross a woman came storming up to me from a couple of cars down to give me a right earful about me being incredibly selfish .....

but fell silent when she caught sight of the Maxi Cosi with my 8 month old daughter in the back.

Yes, because you can't have a Porsche and a child, can you.

haha Riven. And yes, the P&C doesn't need to be near the store at all, just needs to be wider.

LOL doris.

We parked in a P&C space a while back, we had our children with us, DS1 was 11 at the time and on crutches, some bint in a 4x4 pulls up behind us and starts honking her horn and pointing at us and waving forward, she winds the window down and shouts get out of the space, I have a baby.
Congratulations says I as I get out of the car, help DS1 out and go in to the shop.
She was fuming, we left her to it.

The Stupid cow.

I think all P&C spaces should be removed, end of problem

I use the disabled space with my sons disabled badge because although he can walk quite well the car park is hideous. DS is deaf and it's a nightmare trying to watch him and keep hold of the trolley. The architect who designed the Solar Car Park in Framlingham needs a bullet up his ......
The car park slopes really badly. I actually let go of my trolley a few years ago to grab ds luckily a man chased after and caught my trolley!! I have had a few funny looks in the past because he can walk so well, but when people see the badges they stop gawping and commenting!!

I can't really get myself too worked up about P&T spaces. I don't use them any more (dcs 4 and 6) and did find them helpful but never a necessity.

However I could rant on all day about disabled parking bays and the number of people who park in them who should not. If you are trying to get someone into a wheelchair it is (a) very, very hard and (b) you need the extra space otherwise you simply cannot get the wheelchair up to the side of the car. Grrrrrr.

riven although you are right, just imagine if they changed the name to accesible spaces, all the mummies would park in there. you only have to look at the threads about "disabled" toilets. blue badge spaces would be better IMO.
we live in a accesible house and it makes me LOL when it is called a disabled house, I imagine a house in a wheelchair

Not Bluebadge spaces, pleassssse!!! Dad has one but both his carer and I need to use it, hence it is left at dad's house and he loses it. I have lost count of the number of times I have parked in disabled spaces and then rushed in to explain why there is no blue badge. I rejoice when I am at a carpark that just says "Disabled Parking" rather than "Blue badge holders only".

surely you would just do the same thing, as it is you can only park there if you have one anyway

Riven. It was late and I hadn't had one bit of chocolate yesterday

As far as I know, you only need a blue badge if the sign says that you do. In private car parks for shops etc, if there is no mention of a blue badge, I don't think you need one. You're right though, I still always run in and explain - the only time I don't is when I can't work out who to explain to.

i have no problem in telling people off for parking in children spaces and not having children

i also have told a member of staff in waitroise when a man parked with no child and got him clamped

never piss off the blonde and i did have young twins with me and wanted needed that bigger space

i do agree though that P&T spaces dont need to be at front where disabled do - i dont mind walking with children/trolley, but it is annoying when you cant get door open wide enough and hand held baby seat in through the gap

I hate people who park in these spaces with no children, I pointed out to a woman in Morrisons yesterday that she had parked in a P&T space, she said "but I've got morning sickness" and promptly got back in the car and put her hand over her mouth ....

The funniest thing I saw was a man have a go at a couple of teenage girls for parking in one. Then he gave me a 'aren't I good for telling them!' look (I had a two yr old at the time) before walking into the shop with his 10-12 year old daughter.