Teacher eating peanuts

[Trillian]

In DS2s class there is a child with a sever nut allergy. The class teacher is off sick so they have had stand in teachers.
Yesterday the teacher they had decided to sit in the class and eat a pack of peanuts we are a nut free school so surley someone should have told the teacher this before letting her lose on a class of children including one who could die from just the dust off of a peanut

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i have never forgotten to brush my dc teeth either in morning or before bed - but obv everyone isnt as anal good as i am

All our local schools are nut-free Zones, and the entire staff get epipen training every year.
I don't see a problem with encouraging good hygiene amongst children and staff by advising them that eating peanut butter for breakfast might endanger another child, so would they please remember to brush their teeth and wash their hands before coming to school. In line with dental advice as well.

Oh, and Gmarksthespot?

'child that allergic should be home schooled"

An allergy is a special need. Imagine the uproar if that was said about a child with autism.'
As the mother of a child with Aspergers, and a teacher, you'd be amazed how often that is snarled at me and others with children on the spectrum.
Although it's usually along the lines of 'F*cking nutters like that shouldn't be allowed out with normal people'

But then there are also kids (like Stayingsunnygirl says) who cycle/walk to school on their own and are quite likely to pick up a snickers bar or similar. I wouldn't want to trust my kid's safety to other kid's remembering not to do so.

Trouble is Blondeshavemorefun, where do you draw the line? Nothing is failsafe.
You can only reasonably expect the school to inform parents of an issue, whether or not those parents take heed is a different matter.

My childminders son has a severe allergy to peanuts, he has 1 epipen at school kept in the medical room, one in his mothers car, one in his fathers car and one in his mums bag.
He has anthihistimine supply kept in the school medical room as well as in mums bag, both cars.
All you can do as a parent of a child with a severe allergy or as the sufferer of a severe allergy is to take adequate precaution against your surroundings and possible events.

Human error and indeed human nature will never be eradicated and that needs to be taken into account in my opinion which is why i don't think that banning a certain foodstuff for breakfast would work.

'but asking people not to eat what they like at home is unreasonable.
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I eat nuts for health reasons, on the recommendation of a doctor. I would be very upset if I was told we couldn't have them during the week because they do me so much good.

Goblinchild it was me who thinks that a child in such danger from somebody else's breath should be homeschooled. Not Gmarksthespot.

i know

if only no one was allergic to anything eh, that would make life so much simpler

im allergic to cats,not life threatening but still a pita and i tend to stay away from cats and try not to spend a long time in houses that have a cat in them

cant work with a family who have a cat, 10hrs a day of cat fur/hair/salvia would make me a wreck and a mash of blotches skin/sore eyes etc!!

Morloth, I realise that my not leaving a line space between Gmarksthespot's comments and mine may have been confusing, but the quote marks were in the right place.

Oh I see, sorry reading comprehension fail - carry on .

I looked again, and due to having a sticky mouse, I obviously didn't highlight correctly. apologetic

' " A child that allergic should be home schooled"

An allergy is a special need. Imagine the uproar if that was said about a child with autism.'

Better?

I wouldn't have any problem with school saying 'there's a child with a severe nut allergy in ds's class, who could be harmed by even traces of nuts on another child's breath - so please don't let your child eat any breakfast cereal or products containing nuts before they come to school'.

Sounds very reasonable to me. If you weigh up minor inconvenience of being careful about breakfast cereals against the risk of a child dying, it's no contest, really, is it?

Any family who like nuts and feel particularly keen on eating nuts can do it after school.

Only problem I can see is in very rare cases like Riven's where her dd has a specific dietary requirement. That must be a headache - but sounds like Riven has found a compromise that doesn't put the other child at risk.

thats what i thought edam,but obv others disagree

though obv in someones like rivens case, it is different

I don't disagree that there shouldn't be a problem, i just think that it won't work because you will always have at least one person who wants to exercise their human rights to be arsy about being "told what to do" as opposed to a request for caution.

''there's a child with a severe nut allergy in ds's class, who could be harmed by even traces of nuts on another child's breath - so please don't let your child eat any breakfast cereal or products containing nuts before they come to school'.

No, I wouldn't object to this either.

I do sometimes wish I could give ds peanut butter sandwiches for lunch, because it would be an easy way to add variety and provide protein... but it's a very minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things. (School never actually told me not to, I just assumed it would be a bad idea as we have a friend with peanut allergy. Ds had been there for nearly a year by the time I discovered it was actually official school policy anyway.)

You know, I don't think we have ever been told not to bring in nuts. Very small village school, though. Perhaps there's nobody with a nut allergy.

I am not sure why some people thinking their home activities are not public property is so shocking.

Quite understand the school banning nuts if a child has a severe allergy... and would any other parents really like to take a chance on another child's health for the sake of a foodstuff that can be eaten at home anyway?
But still don't understand why the teacher was snacking in class... Was it breaktime and she was alone? If so, how does anyone know she was eating nuts? If not then how rude to snack in front of the class when presumably they are not allowed to do so.

So if you are told that your child eating crunchy nut cereal before school could potentially cause a life threatening allergic reaction in one of thier classmates, you would happily feed them the cereal and send them off to school without a flicker of guilt or concern because you don't like being told what to do in your own hom?

I am gobsmacked. Would you really feel no guilt if that child died?

It wouldn't be just crunch nut cereal: it would presumably also be muesli, nutella, Green & Blacks organic chocolate spread (10% hazelnuts). And breads made with nuts. And almond croissants.

Not saying it shouldn't be done, but it's not as straightforward as it seems.

Is it really that big a deal not to feed a child something with nuts in before it goes to school with a child with such a severe nut allergy that it might die from nutbreath? There are loads of breakfast choices, you can eat a different breakfast every day for weeks without going near a nut. Out of sheer compassion for the other child and their family, would you not just give nuts for breakfast a miss for weekdays?

There's nothing lacking in 'compassion' in exploring the practical and wider implications of avoiding 'nutbreath' as you so quaintly put it.

Don't snark at me. It's nuts on the breath and I couldn't happen to think of a better way of phrasing it.

nutbreath is a good way of phrasing it

and chocolate spread/nutella for breakfast

am i the only nanny person who gives (what I call normal) breakfasts to my dc

weetabix
rice crispies
cornflakes
porridge
marmite on toast
dippy egg

What if a child is a fussy eater? My friends DD refuses everything APART from Crunchy Nut cornflakes in the mornings. No way would she send her child to school starving. And our school is supposedly nut free but unfortunately real life creeps in. What if a child allergic to nuts is on a crowded bus and someone has eaten peanuts?