To be cross at asked why i am letting my DD infect people.

[katiestar]

DS1 secondary school has closed for a week after one of the children contracted swine flu.My DS1 has been in contact with her and is taking Tamiflu.When I took my DD to playgroup this morning I noticed evrybody was being handed a leaflet about swineflu and overheard one of teh staff say it was' because of one of the children's siblings.'
On the way out a woman approached me and said wasn't I worried about DD infecting the other children.
I pointed out that she was not got swine flu or had even been in contact with anyone who had and I had no intention of keeping her ,or any of my children under house arrest.
When I got home I realised that my DD is the only one at the playgroup with a sibling at the secondary school in question.
Now I can sort of accept that people are stupid and bitchy and overlook the comment from the mad parent.But I am a bit annoyed at the playgroup .

And no, it's NOT worse than seasonal flu. I've had that and that damn Hong Kong flu, which btw, is still in the human population, ready to come out whenever.

Both were far, far worse.

I'm only feeling this so much now because I had that pneumonia.

DD1, well, she's weak in that way. She takes things hard. That's how she is composed. She's thin and pale like.

She got a secondary infection from it.

But there was no stopping it. I've no idea how she got it, as she fell ill first.

It had to have been from her nursery, as we don't live in the small town, we live outside it, in a village, and she sees no one. We are quite isolated through here.

She's a homebody, too, she likes to hang round the house and help with the gardening, even now she says she wants to marry a farmer or some other such. She dislikes cities and they confuse and bother her and are too busy for her.

But still she got it.

What is the point in trying to section it off?

It's already proven ineffective.

All I'm saying really is that of the 100 000, people some will be best going about their daily lives and some will be best staying at home, and if the HPA was giving individually tailored advice then that advice wouldn't be the same for all of them.

The OP doesn't actually say when her ds last saw the girl at his school, or how long he's been taking the Tamiflu. If it was over a week ago I would think it was less of an issue, like I said, but if it was less than that I'd think she should have exercised personal discretion and avoided somewhere like a playgroup.

My daughter fell ill and as far as I know, she never came in contact with any confirmed case.

Yet, she is indeed confirmed.

Our 7-month-old son was confirmed first.

He goes nowhere. He is a Highland boy, who goes absolutely nowhere but to drop off his sisters in nursery, and even then he is usually parked outside.

We've not even gone into Gourock or Greenock in well over a month.

He was a confirmed case.

who was that for perfect?... Because I am with the op...but might have not written my last post very well [whistle emoticon]< I blame the wine>

but do you mean that those uninofrmed kind than do us a favour by putting themselves into quarantaine...if so...win win

oh crap best go and stock up on all essentials. I've read a post by someone whos been in contact with someone whos been in contact with someone who had swine flu.
Can you tell I think YANBU

lol bronze...hope you are bathing in bleach/dettol as we speak....

Haven't read all posts so sorry if I repeat. YANBU. If your DS took Tamiflu prophylactically, the chances of him developing flu are very slight.

I was aiming at those people (not necessarily on MN) that feel that OP should sit and twiddle their thumbs at home. Those that think that Fairlady needs to be quaranined for reading a post by someone who has been in contact with someone who has been in contact with.

OP doesn't say when DS last had contact but was assuming that it was when the school was closed "a week ago". That is still only one part of the argument though.

You can't stop people mixing but you can exercise common sense and a bit of consideration and in the first week you know that someone in your family has been in direct enough contact to have Tamiflu, avoid a playgroup, of all places.

I don't disagree with the HPA general advice that people should carry on as normal. I just don't think that absolves any of us of the responsibility to do a bit of extra thinking about whether we can do more.

And one person's experience of a particular flu as better or worse than another is irrelevant when you look at the big picture and surge capacity in hospitals and issues like that.

Well, the policy's changed, too.

They are no longer even swabbing/testing anymore for swine flu and giving out Tamiflu.

It is very foolish to give out Tamiflu to folk who aren't even ill.

And also Tamiflu has side effects.

Everyone carries on as normal with seasonal flu and this is not so bad, I am here to tell you.

So no, YANBU, OP.

lol perfect...I should probably be in "quarantaine", lol....but not for disconnected swine-flu reasons, lol...

Ach, my life is a bloody quarantine out here! LOL.

And yes, I HAVE SWINE FLU!

Now if you were going to Playgroup I think we would be justified in rioting. Somehow I suspect (based on your posts) that you don't exactly feel up to playgroup?

Allthewayhome- Tamiflu is a prescription drug and as such we met individually with a doctor.Her advice was to carry on as normal for DS, let alone any of the family !
DS has now not had contact with the patient for over a week so it is unlikely he will get it now

FFS, "swine flu" is a very mild illness in most people. It is not a global killer. I just wish people would stop getting their news from the media...oh.

The point is that this illness has been inflated out of all proportion in its seriousness. People need to seriously calm down about it.

katiestar, your doctor's advice was sound. If your DS was taking tamiflu to prevent infection, the chances of him developing flu even if he had been exposed was probably less that 1 in 100.

indeed duchesse....yes, maybe if you are very vulnurable you may die if contracting swine flu, but it would be the same with any flu strain, really....and whatever else is lurking....but that does not sstop ordinary people go about their daily business...because it would be sad world if everyone did....

Not unreasonable, but not fantastic either, tbh having a sick child is never fun, whatever illness they have and personally I'd keep dd away from vulnerable people whatever she had.

You don't need to stay at home 24/7 but look how an illness spreads, probably through fluids and close contact. A place with young children who are vulnerable and more likely to sneeze in each others faces or suck on shared toys is the prime place to spread germs.

YABU

care to elaborate ?

(Although actually academic now as school has now reopened with no further cases)

I suppose if the Op is selfish ,then so is everyone who has flown to mexico,north america ,australia etc in the last two weeks ,coming back with their nasty pig germs

who me??

I am paranoid about swine flu, i am paranoid about any flu full stop. Paranoid is the right word and yes, im over reacting. But I think that it would be actually not such a big deal to keep DD away from playschool as i would be out of my mind with worry. Despite the logical part of me knowing that actually it wont make a hoot of a difference. I don't think you were putting other peoples children at risk either, but its just the worry as us mums (dons flame proof jacket) tend to be overprotective.

I get really upset when people send sick children to playschool - i don't want my DD to get sick, with anything. Of course, its academic because they were most likely infectious before they were symptomatic.

I think that the argument on your side would be that if your DD or DS were going to contract swine flu they would have done so already so the fact that they haven't means they are most likely not infected as the whole thing with SF spreading so quickly is that its a new virus and there is no immunity within communities so thats why it spreads so much.

So yeah, i should have elaborated as i do think YABU, but only slightly

I think YABU.

YABVU
DD2 caught a very mild cold from school two weeks ago(now we know it to have been flu), this week DD1 has been treated in hospital after suddenly taking a turn for the worse - she has full blown flu and is miserably ill. Swine flu or mild cold - it is not fair to take the risk of spreading it around - your DC may not be showing any or mild symptoms, but for another child it could be a serious risk to their life.

I am not saying don't go near the grocery shop, but going to a toddler group with such young and vulnerable children is very unfair and rather discourteous. Particularly with something that the human race has never been in contact with before because there is NO inherited immunity to it. having said that - it is going to spread, and I believe it is better to catch a milder strain of swine flu now than a potentially deadly mixed version of the virus later on in the year.

But if you believe that it's better to get it now when it's still relatively mild to most people, Greengables, then how can you say that OP should have stayed at home? Surely you're contradicting yourself, sounds like it would be better if we all caught the milder version now and get some herd immunity going for when it might mutate into something far worse.

So YANBU to OP.

All the official sources are saying that this flu is important because it hits healthy young people hardest, there does seem to be a lot of natural immunity in older people, btw, so it isn't "completely new". Some version of it went around 60 years ago or so.

My favourite toddler group is closed today because it's in the same village as a school that has a single swine-flu infected child (very very mild case according to all accounts). So it's heading my way (evil cackle laugh).

I am still far more worried about being hit by a bus today.