To suggest that enforced national food rationing might help solve the nation's obesity problem?

[Lucia39]

During the period 1939-1954 the nation's diet was, apparently, the healthiest it has ever been.

So would a similar regime assist helping those who are increasingly "dimensionally challenged"?

Vegetables, fruit, and pulses would be more freely available but meat, dairy produce, sugar and fats would be strictly rationed.

Any thoughts?

Oh no he is far taller and sexier

YABU.

Sorry I googled sexy chauffer and got lost for a while .

hmc: Ah! I see, lots of blustering pusillanimity, but a distinct reluctance to engage!

Lucia39 - I never said that you did. Why can't some people read and comprehend?

What do you know about my life? My medical condition? My diet? My exercise? NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING - so fuck off with your attitude.

LOL what's the veiw like??

From up your own arse that is.

Look I think rationing internet access would be much better as I would be in bed instead of goolging wartime pinups and sexy chaffers!

[lol at rationing internet access.

chipingIn, please don't take her seriousely and don't let her upset you. She is mad.

ChippingIn: If you can make comments to other people about me don't take offence when I make one back to you. You are quite right I know nothing about your life etc. However, it also follows that you know nothing about mine either. So if you can't take it don't dish it out.

I don't agree because I think people should have freedom of choice.

At the same time, I do think that food manufacturers could be persuaded to make their foods healthier and also that healthy foods should be cheaper.

However, I do believe it is down to each individual to choose what they eat.

Is there an echo?

Up your own arse?

Oh gosh looks like time for bed, I am sure M&S will be at the forefront of rationing so wy not tlak to them dear, night night.

I am probably going to regret this but exactly how would this rationing work?

I am intrigued. Rationing during the war was based on availability and cost of production which aren't issues now.

How could you possibly create a fair and realistic rationing system?

Laquitar: Why am I "quite mad"? Because I start threads that are somewhat controversial or which are not quite to your taste?

Or should you all just be left to whinge and wallow [at inordinate lengths on occasion] about the inconsequential minutiae of what happened in the supermarket to the various "DCs" or what the "MIL" said or why the "DP" is such a boring so-and-so in bed?

I know motherhood can cut some women off from the real world pro tempore but I believe in exercising the grey matter and encouraging others to do likewise.

If you don't like my threads avail yourself of the opportunity to ignore 'em!

hmc ROFL at grandfather seeing the light. Made my night, that did.

Niecie: Given the predictions for climate change, increasing pressure on the world's water resouces, and continuing population growth [which will in turn reduce the amount of land available for cultivation] it is highly likely that the cost of production and the availibility of resources [including food] will soon become serious issues that will need to be addressed. These combined with the present economic crisis could well see us having to return to some form of rationing for all the necessaries of life.

The world in the next 20-30 years might be very different from the one to which we have become accustomed.

You miss the point - the availability and cost were issues back in 1939. They aren't now, not in such immediate way anyway. Back then food simply wasn't getting through and there was not the manpower to produce more in this country (with a large part of the workforce in the forces).

I was asking how you would instigate a rationing system now, not in 20 or 30 years time when it might (or might not) become necessary for practical reasons.

What are you going to base your rationing system on?

Laquitar yep - mad as a box of frogs. She winds me up, stupid people do that - I really shouldn't let them! Thanks for the kind thought, but I'm fine, I'm made of stern stuff

Lucia39 - I don't know where you got the idea I couldn't take it? I merely told you to fuck off with your attitude, because you know nothing about my life.

I would also dispute the idea that diet was healthier in the rationing years.

Surely you are aware that fruit and veg were also rationed and that if you were an urban dweller they would undoubtedly been in very short supply.

Coupled with this, the rationing idea may work to reduce our food intake but it does nothing to replicate the other wartime conditions - people did a lot more exercise back then. If they had to go anywhere they walked, cycled or took public transport.

Are you planning to ban us from driving for large parts of the week too?

Rationing might serve to make us skinnier but it won't necessarily make us fitter.

Lucia39 - Or should you all just be left to whinge and wallow [at inordinate lengths on occasion] about the inconsequential minutiae of what happened in the supermarket to the various "DCs" or what the "MIL" said or why the "DP" is such a boring so-and-so in bed?

Oh right, so you are here to do us all a massive favour and save us from ourselves... how charitable of you! pft

lucia39
i think you're being a bit mental really

She is a larf, isn't she. Bless her.

I don't know why I am letting myself get drawn into debating with her other than the fact that she makes these sweeping suggestions but doesn't actually seem to have a clue how this might be done.

Give me something to debate on if you want to raise the level of debate on MN. At the moment you have presented one idea, with no substance and a lot of haranguing of other posters.

Focus, dear! Put some meat on those skinny bones of an idea.

"The government can dictate what people eat when it's taxpayers are allowed to dictate where their money goes. "

And you're a Queen fan too. I love you Thunderduck.

Oops that does sound rather stalkerish.

A useful link for all you fat haters

The government introduced it - and guess what - all the stuff they said was healthy was stuff they could still grow or get in good amounts.

And Winston Churchill didn't eat like that.

And women could cook.

And the proportion of people eating out (ie takeways of today) was higher.

Lucia - I am telling you what my godmother, who actually lived through it, experienced during WW2. You weren't there, so don't try to pretend you know better than her.

She used the word 'starving' about rationing, as I said, not 1939. People were bloody hungry during rationing - not starving to death, obviously, but starving as in very, very hungry and never having enough protein in their diets (unless you were buying stuff on the black).

And stop answering points I didn't make. Cheap fourth form debating trick. I know perfectly well when the NHS was founded, thanks, and never said anything to suggest the contrary. Indeed, my godmother was one of the people who fought for it. And as it happens, I've read the Beveridge report.

Btw, there were no workhouses during WW2, they were abolished in 1930.

You are arguing FOR rationing, I'm telling you what it was actually like.

Do not feed the troll