to think that these "men" that are talking about submissive women out to be hung, drawn and quartered.

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I wouldnt read if you're easily offended.
Bleugh

Is this something that men want, but dont like to admit? Its bizarre. I can only assume they are about 15 years old!

I think they talk to the friends who they think or know will understand where they are coming from.