to now be farking livid because i think dsd has got ringworm?

[idranktheteaatwork]

Posted a thread about dsd's school on Friday, can't find it now so won't link. Basically, school sent a letter home on Tuesday saying that 3 children in her year had ringworm and to keep an eye out but not to keep your child at home if they get it.
More and more cases were confirmed everyday, by the time she came home on Friday she was clutching a letter stating that 23 children now had it.

Her yr have swimming at the moment on a Friday, i called the school and told them that dsd was not allowed to go swimming this week as they were allowing all the affected children to carry on swimming and there was clearly a fast spreading outbreak going on.

School were quite rude about it but agreed that dsd would not go swimming, there were a few others whose parents had said the same so they had made arrangements for them to stay at the school and do an outside pe session with another yr.

Some of the parents of the infected children were saying on Wednesday that they wouldn't bother treating until the halfterm....
As far as i am aware the policy is that children who are infected are allowed into school as long as they ARE being treated.
my original thread was basically asking if IABU to expect the school to send these children home.

DSD came home on Friday and told us that she was sent swimming, apparently her teacher told her they couldn't "muck about with lots of arrangements".
Yesterday morning she got up and had a patch of raised red bumps on the inside of her thigh.
This morning it has spread to the inside of both thighs and has moved right down to her knees.

I am fucking livid. And i don't even know if i am being reasonable to be livid.

DSD is now itching like mad, the heat this weekend is making it worse obviously.
DP and I both started new jobs within the last couple of weeks and will now have to beg and plead with new bosses to take time off as DSD cannot attend holiday clubs or childminder with ringworm. (neither of us begrudge having time off with either of our children by the way, but it is going to be really awkward come Tuesday to try and negotiate time off after such a very short time of employment)
DD has severe psoriasis which causes her a lot of pain and embarrassment. (think 90% covered in cracked bleeding skin that looks like burn scars), i am terrified that she will now get ringworm as well which will be a sodding disaster as a; it will be nigh on impossible to tell if she has it and b; the treatment cream will probably hurt her.

If any of you have any experience of ringworm i would be very grateful for advice by the way.

Ringworm is EXTREMELY contagious but very easy to treat..you can use caneston or atheletes foor cream to keep a hold on it til you can get to a GP.

Don't change any plans... it's not chickenpox. I used to get it all the time (it's easily caught off horses/cats)

yes, it's the making her swim when you had expressly said no

apart from anything else they would not have been insured

that's wrong on all sorts of levels

Yes I agree YANBU about the swimming
Parents wishes should be respected and for that the school is negligent

As for the ringworm, don't sweat it, just make sure there is no shared towel/linen usage, keep it covered up and put some cream on it. If it's not bad it'll go in a day or two.

I can not believe the school sent her swimming after they had already agreed with you she would not go.

It was way out of line of them to send her. You are the parent and it is your right to say wether she goes swimming or not.

I agree that this needs to be taken up with the school as they have no right to go against your wishes like that.

My friends dd just got ringworm last week she had to stay of nursery until 3 days after treatment had started.

She did not take her to swimming lessons but did continue with ballet playdates etc.

yanbu to be cross that they went againgst your wishes-your dd going swimming after youd said you didnt want her to.

but you are being a tad ott about the ringworm.yes its a nuisance and cant be nice for your dsd but it is just ringworm.

I'm a bit confused about the keeping her swimming gear at school and just the towel gets sent home...what happens to her soggy costume?

Maybe I'm a bit slow!

Holiday clubs and Childminders should not exclude children with ringworm - see the attached; healthcarea2z.org/ditem.aspx/56/Ringworm/

And they certainly should not exclude siblings of the infected!

Tea Tree Oil cures ringworm.
Also it isn't itchy and doesn't hurt, although looks sore.

I have had ringworm and it wasn't itchy, came up very slowly as a small red patch then very very gradually over a long period turned into a ring.

Are you absolutely sure it is ringworm?

it may be that it spreads more quickly in children or something but this sounds totally different to what I had.

Oh sorry I drankthetea ignore me. MN downage has caused my brain neurons to miss-fire.

thanks for the link, Hellywobs. That's a good site. I wish I had known about it a while ago - a friend of mine fell out with me when she said I shouldn't have taken my DS to her house when he was recovering from Slapped Cheek (he was all better, just had a slight bit of dry skin left on one cheek) - that website says exclusion is ineffective as transmission takes place before the rash appears. I tried to tell her that but she wouldn't believe me and accused me of making her children ill
Incidentally though, she didn't bother to isolate hers and took them to Butlins!!!
Moan over. Sorry about that.

maybe you should double check its ringworm. ringworm starts as a little red mark so you almost think the child has bumped themselves,
gradually it turns into a circle of skin which is not bumps it is like the skin has been rubbed raw kind of flakey its usually a perfect circle about the size of a ten pence peice

I've had ringworm.

Small patch of reddish scaly skin which later turned into a ring. Bit of anti-fungal cream and it disappeared.

Should think it is a nightmare to contain at a school once a few have got it, short of closing the school.

Your dsd may be having an allergic rection to your stress levels

YABU

The school should not have had her go swimming after you expressly said that she shouldn't go that week. That seems off to me.

Am pmsl at allergic reaction to stress levels.

Gp confirmed ringworm.

I know i come across as pfb about this, i think i am pissed with the parents who refused to treat as i think tgat is lazy and inconsiderate. Also pissed with the school, sendind dsd swimming without lermission is wrong on so many levels.
I am worried about dd's skin, its taken a long time to get an effective treatment and this will set her back.
Finally, although i know that the holiday club and cm are not necessarily right to exclude , i can see their point.
I guess anxiety about our jobs is adding to this, the recent redundancies were a bit of a blow .

Apologies for spelling etc am on ipod now. Many thanks to all who replied.

But do agree 100% she shouldn't have swam.

Hope she makes a quick recovery.

Idrank.

I'm really sorry about what's happened. However I concur with those who have their doubts it's actually ringworm.

Having seen it myself it's NOT something that comes up that rapidly, or goes away quickly...it is still infectious whilst being treated, and especially in a damp situation such as a swimming pool it can linger and grow all over surfaces waiting to attack (as it were)

I don't think it soudns anything like it tbh. Not sure what to suggest but yanbu, and I hope your half term works out better than you expect x

slurrrp

Ok. I will get a second opinion with our own gp on tuesday as so many have said it doesnt sound like ring worm. Although, it is a series of round patches, two have gone a bit scaly round the outside so am thinking the out of hours gp was right.

Many thanks once again ladeez.
Thank you flight, much appreciated.

Ds2 had ringworm in the nappy area when he was a few months old, our fantastic hv said it was a sweat rash so to keep in moist...

3 months later when the patches had spread all down behind his kees, buttocks, back, underarms etc I went to the gp who said 'oh yes this is a bad case of ringworm'. It did take weeks and weeks to clear up with the cream but all those weeks of it undiagnosed with us all sharing towells and him sharing washable nappies with his brother; no one else in the house got any.

So I am a bit that this ringworm has spread like wildfire through the school?

It can't have been itchy, it didn't bother him in the slightest, and when I was that I'd been taking him swimming with it each week thinking it was a sweat rash, the gp said that was fine and the chlorine probably did it good.

Its just like nits and conjunctivitis - kids get it, no point getting yourself in a state (like I did )

how odd...it sounds like it in appearance but just the spreading issue is peculiar.

perhaps it is a new mutation...perhaps it is... swine ringworm!!!

I had ringworm and it was incredibly itchy - in fact when the raised rin appeared I thought it was I'd been scratching so much

Never fear Stewiesmum.

I will write you a little brochure myself if you want.

It will say something like this:

Hello

you need to worry about a terrible new disease, that is REALLY VERY DANGEROUS and bad. Don't leave your home, even to post a letter or tip the milkman, milkmen are known carriers as are many small mammals

Please just stay indoors until at least 2013, as this will ensure your safety and that of those around you

Call this number for emergency supplies of tapioca, beans or smarties.

0845 46 47

Thankyou

See that was WAY better than the govt version.

Just wanted to add to this post from a childcare provider side.

Yep guidelines from HPA state suggested times for infectiousness, and roughly how long a child would be contagious and should be excluded from a setting, but all providers have exclusion policys for headlice, c/pox, conjunctivitus etc and although they take regard of the reccomended guidelines they are legally able to state their own periods of exclusion.

So it's not unusual for one provuder to be willing to take a child with an infectious condition (usually after treatment has commenced) whereas another would refuse.

From my pov (i'm a childminder) i have taken children with infectious stuff if they a) havn't been to poorly b) would be the only mindee or would be with sblings only c) the other parents agree that their children could still come (ie: if it's chickenpox the others would prob get it anyway, or parents want them to catch it ) I tend to find that policys are great in principle but you still need to be flexible according to circumstances.

I would be totally with the school for sending your DSD swimming after you had expressly refused your consent, not only would the insurance cover not be valid but they have disregarded your wishes as parent, I would certainly make an official complaint in writing and request that a copy be put on your DSD file I would also ask them to confirm in writing that in future the school will respect your wishes as a parent.

With regard to your care probs over half term, could you perhaps ask your CM if she could take DSD as the infection is in a place that wouldn't be in contact with others (you could put trousers on her) personally I would take her if it wasn't on hands, face, arms or exposed places IYSWIM especially as she has got treatment for it.

Good luck and I hope she gets well soon