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AIBU?

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to think Royal Mail should not deliver BNP propaganda?

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KingRolo · 21/05/2009 11:54

In with the usual bundle of junk mail today was a leaflet for the BNP called 'People Like You Voting BNP'.

Very offensive content (sample - 'Oppose the dangerous drive to give 80 million low wage Muslim Turks the right to swamp Britain'.)

I'm going to bin it obviously. But AIBU to think that racist filth like this should not be thrust into my home by our (lovely) postman?

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Thunderduck · 21/05/2009 11:55

There's a huge thread on this already. I'll give you a link in a moment.

womma · 21/05/2009 11:55

No, there's no way YABU!

Thunderduck · 21/05/2009 11:55

mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/755938-Really-angry-that-the-postman-delivered-a-BNP-electi on-leaflet

RumourOfAHurricane · 21/05/2009 11:57

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ZoeC · 21/05/2009 11:57

(Think there has already been a thread on this very recently which had a lot of opinions on btw.)

I don't in any way agree with the BNP, but the post office are non-political and have no reason to not deliver things that are legal. Democracy means there inevitably will be things that you don't agree with, but so long as they fall within the law (albeit only just in the BNP case) then it cannot be stopped.

pingping · 21/05/2009 11:58

YABU yes they are racist and yes we all hate it but there is plenty of people in the uk that wish to support them...

Them and the UKINP are as bad as eachother...

I never got the muslim leaflet just the one about immigration etc sadly thou I have feeling they will get alot of votes not only because of the mess of expenses but because of the way they have worded things such as During these times we will ensure that jobs are giving to British people etc and with the credit crunch and so many out of work they will lap up the BNP Bullshit....

littlelamb · 21/05/2009 11:58

It's all about free speech though. Yes, they are tosspots but they have as much right to distribute election propaganda as any other party.
I was wtchng the Wright Stuff this morning (yeah, I know, but I was bf, and the remote was faaaaar away) and the pre-ad 'question' was: what does the BNP stand for ?
British Nazi Party
British National Party
or Bad News Party

Childish, purile and utterly stupid. Yes, they are repugnant, but there is no need

GypsyMoth · 21/05/2009 11:59

i object to ALL the junk mail. not just the one leaflet,and they aren't the only organisation sending them out.

onagar · 21/05/2009 12:05

YABU but see the other thread.

Nekabu · 21/05/2009 12:15

It's just advertising. They pay, Royal Mail deliver. In a country where freedom of speech is considered important, people/organisations can say things that others disagree with. We should stick the beastly things in the recycling, make sure we all VOTE so they don't get in and then we can console ourselves with how much they spent on advertising that was wasted as all it did was to make us more determined they wouldn't get anywhere in the election!

KingRolo · 21/05/2009 12:30

Never saw the other thread - will have a look.

I understand about the importance of freedom of speech but still feel that crap like this shouldn't be in with the Pizza Hut menu and Morrison's latest offers.

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Nekabu · 21/05/2009 12:33

Why not? If they are paying for it and are within the law, why shouldn't it be delivered? I may not like it and you may not like it but I don't think we can sit there picking and choosing who has a right to freedom of speech and who doesn't - as long as they operate within the law.

KingRolo · 21/05/2009 12:35

Littlelamb - from what I've seen of The Wright Stuff their audience are exactly the kind of people who might vote BNP so anything that enlightens them to the truth about the BNP (Nazis, bad news) about them is a good idea isn't it?

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littlelamb · 21/05/2009 12:37

Rolo, that twat man who hosts it was just so smug about it, in an oooooo aren't I clever way . I just don't think they'd have done the same with the other parties, and nor should they.

KingRolo · 21/05/2009 12:42

Nekabu - I get your point completely. It's just it being in with the other stuff seems to normalise it somewhat, which is what I don't like.

I live in an area where the BNP have some support which probably makes me more sensitive to it too. In local shops and pubs you tend to hear conversations about how people are going to vote BNP because of some of the stuff they have read in the leaflets.

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Nekabu · 21/05/2009 12:47

But that's what they've paid for - a crap circular which gets delivered with all the other crap circulars. Whether the people in your area actually get off their butts and go down to the poll station to vote may be a different kettle of fish to them reading something that was delivered to their doorstep. Judging by the feeling on here I'd say there were plenty of MNers who are so against them that they will be down to the poll station en masse to make sure they vote against them! The thought of the BNP getting anything other than the bums rush just doesn't bear thinking about ...

scarletlilybug · 21/05/2009 12:50

YABU.

Freedom of speech is meaningless if it only applies to people with "acceptable" views. The best way of dealing with the issues and argumants raised by BNP propaganda is to subject them to open and rational debate.

KingRolo · 21/05/2009 12:50

True, a lot of the people round here who would vote BNP are actually too lazy / too pissed to get off their arses and go and vote anyway. Thank God

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reach4sky · 21/05/2009 13:36

YABU. It's a legal political party and it's not up to the Royal Mail to make decisions on what it will and will not deliver.

mayorquimby · 21/05/2009 13:45

yabvu.
i hate the bnp as well. but i also hate this idea of "of course everyone is entitled to their opinions as long as they are exactly the same as mine."

i'd consider myself to be on the left side of the political spectrum and quite liberal, but what annoys me a lot now is that a lot of main stream liberals are now the most right-wing people you could hope to meet. in that they believe everyone has to agree with their liberal ideas or else they are wrong.

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