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Father figure refuses to get to know new boyfriend before judging him

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Wordweaver · 27/04/2009 16:09

This is the first time I have posted on here, so please forgive me if I don't explain everything clearly or use the right abbreviations! But I've seen some friendly people giving great advice on here, and I would really value some objective opinions.

I started seeing someone about three months ago and am having a really lovely time. He's fun, kind, thoughtful and treats me better than any man I have ever had a relationship with. Right now, I'm very happy. I'm just waiting to see how this develops, and hoping it carries on getting better and better as we get to know each other more.

I'm very close to my mother, who has met him on several occasions and has got on well with him. (She's what I consider completely balanced about it - she's friendly and welcoming, without any premature nudges or comments about wedding bells!)

The problem I have is with her ex-partner, who I will refer to as my stepfather for the sake of simplicity. They were together for 20 years, (although they only started living together after I left home, so I never actually lived with him as a kid). He has always wanted to see me as his daughter, although I have never been able to feel the same. My relationship with him was good when I was a child, rocky when I was a teen, and is now fairly good. Much like a lot of girls and dads I should imagine.

Mum left him about three years ago, and as the only 'child' I was the only support for both of them through the whole difficult time. At the time he told a very big, very damaging lie to me while I was trying to help him. It was like a bomb in the middle of our little family unit, and it broke a great deal of trust. That isn't important in terms of this discussion (I and Mum have forgiven him and moved on from the hurt) except in the sense that it means I am aware that he did this very hurtful, untrustworthy thing to me.

He has met my new boyfriend once, for half an hour. They joked and chatted and it all seemed to go well.

Since then, he has interrogated me repeatedly on the subject of new boyfriend's financial position, plans for the future, educational qualifications etc. He told me that he suspects new man is going to try to move in with me (the house he rents is being sold and he will have to look for another place soon). I reassured him that I don't want to move things that fast and have no intention of asking him to move in. I have also spoken to new boyfriend, just to make sure there was no unspoken question about it between us, and he said he feels the same - no point in rushing anything. He said that the way he feels about me, he expects that one day we will live together, but he wants that to be further down the line, when his business is more secure (he's setting it up at the moment - not the best time financially).

I thought stepfather would be ok, but various little remarks he has made to me and to my mother have shown me that there's still a problem. So when I went over there to see him last week, I asked if he was still feeling worried about something. I said that I wanted to have it in the open, because it's important to me that he gives this man a chance, as I like him very much.

Stepfather poured out stream of worries, saying he doesn't trust new boyfriend, thinks he is only with me because I have my own house and am 'a good catch', that he will try to make me invest in his business, that he will never be able to 'support me', and that he is only pretending to like me.

I was quite upset by this, because it implies that stepfather thinks no one could genuinely be in love with me. But getting upset never helps. I spoke with him very calmly and rationally for about an hour. I said that it was understandable that he worries about me, but that no relationship has an ironclad guarantee, and only time will tell if it will last or work out. I am a woman of 33 years old and work as a freelancer, and I am (by stepfather's own admission) a sensible person who doesn't run into rash decisions. I asked him if, for my sake, he could agree to not pre-judge new boyfriend, but reserve judgement and just take the time to get to know him as Mum is. He agreed, but his parting words were "I still don't trust him though."

I just feel a bit sad and worn out. It's not like I'm asking him to walk me down the aisle - just to make a little effort for my sake. I am not planning to rush into anything, and it's a very new relationship right now - stepfather's worries seem massively premature.

He wouldn't dream of suggesting that we went for a drink together or something like that - in everything he always waits for others to organise things. I have made a suggestion of all going to see the opera at the end of May. I thought this would be a good way to spend an evening together without it being as potentially confrontational as a meal. Stepfather loves opera and new boyfriend is interested to experience it, although has never been before. Stepfather's been very reticent, and eventually snapped out "Does he really like opera or is he just pretending?" He did say that we could go, but it doesn't feel like a happy thing to me any more, and I haven't yet booked it.

I guess I just wonder if I should keep trying to think of situations where stepfather could get to know boyfriend without it being too antagonistic - or rather, without stepfather's antagonism showing too strongly. Or perhaps I should just forget it - say that I have done what I can, and if stepfather wants to meet me halfway, he needs to take some steps now.

Perhaps I am fretting too much. But stepfather can be a difficult man to be around, and can make those closest to him feel very sick and miserable if he is cross about something. I should add that he can also be extremely kind, funny, generous and nice, and he is family to me, so it does matter to me when he has bad reactions to things.

Wow, this post is probably way too long. Sorry . . .

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2rebecca · 27/04/2009 16:32

At 33 why is the opinion of this man so important to you? I was surprised when I read how old you were as your desire for parental type approval from him did seem that of a younger woman.
I had decided to move in with my current husband before my parents even met him.
If he isn't really your father, wasn't in your life as you were growing up and no longer lives with your mother then if he isn't supportive I would be inclined to distance myself from him if I were you.
Does part of you think he may be right and is that why his reaction upsets you so much?

PadDad · 27/04/2009 16:32

Sounds to me like opera would be a bad idea, as it's your stepfather's 'home turf'. Therefore anything your boyfriend said about opera could be interpreted negatively/suspiciously, if your stepfather was of a mind to.

If your boyfriend was a big opera person, they might bond over it. But having someone around who makes naive comments can only fuel irritation.

stainesmassif · 27/04/2009 16:32

wow, that is a long one.....has he approved of partners in the past? i'm afraid it sounds to me that he is jealous of a new male figure in your life.....plus the 'difficult to be around but also kind, funny etc' characteristics sound like those of a man who likes things his own way?

PadDad · 27/04/2009 16:36

2rebecca, the OP said the guy is family to her. That's the situation. Why try to meddle with challenge that aspect of the issue?

deste · 27/04/2009 16:37

My mother was suspicious of everyone and never trusted anyone. I feel though at your age you dont need permission from anyone, just go on instinct. Maybe you need to let go of the apron strings, I know you want his approval but just make up your own mind and I'm sure you will make the right decision. Good luck.

2rebecca · 27/04/2009 16:48

She did say that he wanted to see her as a daughter but she never felt the same and that he didn't really enter her life until she'd left home. I did wonder if he was pushing the "I am your family" angle rather than the poster feeling he was part of her family, especially now he's not even with her mum any more.

coppertop · 27/04/2009 16:51

Interesting that his concerns seemed to be based on financial reasons. Is he (the stepfather) having money troubles of his own?

bubblagirl · 27/04/2009 16:51

sound sike anormal dad to me he clearly sees you as his girl still and will worry about someone coming along and potentially hurting you

my dad would be the same trust and acceptance comes in time for some people and seeing you happy will only help this along

dont book it if your dp has no real interest as this will show through and he may appear fake

go with your step father maybe and tell him you like the fact he worries and you'd expect that from your father figure but your happy and you would like if he could just be polite and be happy for you

also my parents would never just organize something either they wait for us its not such a bad thing they tend to leave you to do your own thing

do something more on mutual ground at some near time and get them talking again but spend some time alone telling step father how you feel

BitOfFun · 27/04/2009 16:59

I think you just need to grow a rhino hide on this one pet! It's your opinion that counts at the end of the day, and part of growing up to make our own reasoned decisions without seeking others' approval. If every member of your family and all your friends were saying "Watch him, he's up to no good", I would say that there were alarm bells you should pay heed to, but it's just your stepdad, and it's just his own issues by the sound of it. Don't dance round for his approval: enjoy your boyfriend and firmly say to your stepdad that if he keeps pouring cold water on your happiness, you'll need to spend less time with him- then stick to it! It's the only way to deal with interfering old biddies, which is how he's coming across.

Wordweaver · 27/04/2009 17:26

Thanks to everyone - this feedback really does help. My own feeling is that I have been honest with my stepfather about how I feel and haven't asked him to accept this man - only to get to know him before he judges. I think I have been fair, but now I am going to focus on my relationship with this new man and let my stepfather deal with it in his own way - I can't control him and I don't want to!

2rebecca - I take your point, and I feel that you are right about me being old enough to let it slide over me. It's useful to hear that, Stepfather has a great love of control, and the habit formed in both me and my mum over several years to cowtow to that . . . sometimes I need a kick in the pants reminder not to maintain that habit! But at the same time, much as he's not my father, he really is part of my family and from my point of view just distancing myself from him isn't an option - sorry, probably sounds madly complicated!

stainesmassif - no, he has ever approved of anyone and has always mocked any suggestion that I loved someone or they loved me. And yes, he does like things his own way, very much so.

coppertop - no, he is well off, and basically judges people very much by their job and income.

bitoffun - rhino hide is on order! Your advice really resonates with me, thank you.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer me.

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