to think that my 11 yr old should sleep in a bit?

[ssd]

I'm sick of being told by other mums how they need to drag their kids out of bed

we live in a tiny house and ds2 wakes even earlier and seems to make a racket which wakes up ds1

when the hell do they become deep sleepers?

we have another day of moany overtired children here to look forward too

oh and ds1 had a club and didn't go to bed till 10.45 last night

I'm just sick of it

How early are you talking about - my ds gets up at 7.15 everyday he is like an alarm clock. But then on my side of the family we are all morning people.
If he gets up earlier I send him back to bed and he goes. Don't believe everything other mums say.
I was asleep by 10.45 .

timm, I can be asleep by 10!

he wakes about 7 no matter when he goes to bed, usually goes at 9 during the week but his club on Fridays finishes at 10!(far too late)

My dd has Scouts that doesn't finish til late on a Friday - but 9.15 not 10.00. (Why does your ds's finish so late, by the way - is there anything that can be done about that? You can't be the only parent who doesn't like it!) I have a "stay in bed til 8 rule" on Saturdays, so if mine wake up they read til 8.00. They are allowed to get into the same bed if they want to, but no chatting unless it's so quiet I can't hear them! I'm an early riser, so I take them drinks and biscuits (just done that!) and they really look forward to it

Sorry ssd - I am of no use to you - even when I was at uni I was up at 8 hangover and all - I just get that feeling I am missing out on the day - lol.
But at 11 I used to get up and get my own brekkie and watch cartoons etc..can he do this - my mum used to stay in bed until 9 or so at the weekends.

I think he does feel like he's missing out on something by staying in bed!

he's not allowed down till 8 either so he's up there bored

scouts are so late as cubs finishes at 8 then scouts are in!PITA all round

Could he be getting on with his homework or something? Suggest to him how brilliant it would be to have all his homework done by 8 on Saturday morning1 I'm an early waker so I sympathize with not wanting to be asleep, but there must be something that won't be boring but is quiet.

ssd- my 11 year old boy is exactly the same- he has always been an early riser, it's just the way he is I guess-although he is quiet and doesn't wake the others.
The youngest also gets up at a ridiculous time every day- usually 6 and I have to get up with her
Middle child DOES sleep in, often wonder if she is part vampire

seeker - if your an early riswr why do you make them stay in ed until 8am?!!

Could he go and put the tv on, play on a game or something, read, etc?

Compo - because they both have incredibly busy and full-on lives, and I build as much down time in as I can. Saturday and Sunday mornings are an easy way to do it. If they were champing at the bit to be up and doing then I wouldn't insist - but because it's always been what they do, they enjoy it. They usually get into bed together with their books and some breakfast and just chill out together.

My DS11 (nearly 12) is also an early riser. DS2 (9) will sleep in for longer.

We tell them not to come out of their rooms before 8.00am.

I work on a Friday night till midnight, so I need my sleep and DH is up at 6.00am through the week so we both deserve a bit of a lie in.

My DS was always an early riser, usually awake by 6.30am however now he is 17 he's finally learned to lay-in but he's still usually up by 9.30am at the latest.

bellavita - if you're doing it because YOU want a lie in (an excellent reason!) not because you think they need one, why do they have to stay in their rooms?

seeker, if they come downstairs, the tv goes on (I don't mind that) but they have it so loud, I am woken up straight away, being such a light sleeper, I cannot get back to sleep again, or they start arguing. Whereas if they stay in their own bedrooms with their own things, less chance of World War 3 happening!!

Good point well made!