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or am I perhaps being sexist instead

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BalloonSlayer · 20/04/2009 09:23

There was a cartoon in the Sunday Times of Jacqui Smith, depicting her as naked but for fishnet stockings, showing breasts. It was not a flattering portrayal.

OK only a cartoon.

Given that part of what the cartoon was lampooning about her is the adult movies scandal which is not exactly her fault I thought it was pretty unfair. But I found the depiction of her incredibly, skin-crawlingly offensive. If it had been me I would have felt completely humiliated by it.

BUT - and here is the AIBU/S bit - politicians are often depcited semi-nude by satirical cartoonists, aren't they? John Major was always shown in a giant pair of grey pants by the guy in the Guardian, wasn't he?

Maybe I think it's so awful as it showed a nipple? Or am I being sexist and am only upset because she is a woman?

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SusieDerkins · 20/04/2009 15:19

I agree myredcardigan. The Jacqui Smith cartoon is so much more sexualised. Find me a cartoon with a male politcian in a demeaning sexual pose a la readers wives of top shelf magazines and I'm quite sure I'll find it offensive. Except that such a thing doesn't exist.

BalloonSlayer · 20/04/2009 15:23

Yes I like it too that's why I linked to it .

And as I mentioned, he had just been outed as having had an affair with Edwina Currie, so was fair game.

This is an interesting debate.

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Judy1234 · 20/04/2009 15:37

I thought it was such a funny cartoon I found it on line and emailed it to a friend, I'm afraid. Mostly men are protrayed. It's a sign of the times and that there is less sexism that there is actually a woman shown.

InmyheadIminParis · 20/04/2009 15:51

I'm with you myredcardigan.
The Jacqui Smith cartoon is offensive - bending over and picking up cash at the same time... hardly subtle. Yet again I think it shows a lack of imagination by a satirist who can't think of any other way to a woman other than to demean her sexually

InmyheadIminParis · 20/04/2009 15:52

that should have been - can't think ofany other way to criticise a woman other than to demean her sexually ! ooops

DuffyFluckling · 20/04/2009 15:55

Political cartoons are supposed to provoke a reaction. Surely GS has done his job?

BalloonSlayer · 20/04/2009 16:07

Why's it funny though Xenia?

Is it because she looks awful?

She is being portrayed as if she has been guilty of sexual impropriety.

It could be argued that a presentation of: sexual impropriety + picking up cash = prostitution.

Given that the sexual impropriety, such as it was, was committed by Smith's husband, why was he not depicted in fishnets showing his arse? I might have found that funny.

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ABetaDad · 20/04/2009 16:07

PadDad - I agree wth you. There is a long history of savage political cartoons goig back hundreds of years depicting politicians in various states of undress or even having sex.

I believe I recall a similar cartoon of Margaret Thatcher depicted in fish net stockings once.

That said I did find it a bit OTT but as there have been others in a similar genre of mae politicians over the years it is probably just about acceptable.

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