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Maybe I am, not sure. (very long)

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itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 00:32

Ok, probably going to be longish-My best friend, i have known nearly 9 years, been through a lot together, relationship break ups, rape(her) by a supposed friend, domestic abuse(me) both had depression at times, after her divorce she became a lesbian, then changed back to men, now women again, I don't judge her on this, it is her choice, feelings, whatever. She was very supportive to me when i had dc2, the father was nowhere to be seen and she was with me when i gave birth, and in the early few weeks.

When dc2 was a few months old, we where out and met a man, she ended up going home earlier than i, she is very petite and is usually ready for home after 4 or 5, i ended up getting close with him, started texting in the days afterwards but i was unsure as i had been very badly hurt from the father of dc2, she says if i'm not interested then to give her his number, so for some stupid reason i did, they ended up dating, he tried to stop our friendship as he was jealous, even told her i had tried it on with him subtly(i absolutely didn't) I think she believed him in a way, but said that he had got the wrong end of the stick, even though that was bollox as there was no end of the stick to get! Anyway, she got bored of him after several weeks and started seeing a female friend she has known for a long time.

I met (d?)p a year or so ago, we had our rough patches, ie i caught him looking as though he was trying to kiss another friend of mine when he was very drunk, but couldn't justify to myself that i was right, i have caught him out lying a few times too, my friend has always defended him, which is unusual as she wouldn't have done other partners i had. Anyway, we seemed to be on track and have even booked a holiday together.

So here's the thing..Lately, i have felt very stressed, I gave up smoking a few months ago, I discovered that my Dad and Aunt had been sexually abused as children(my paternal gf had abused my Aunt, and i already knew that my Maternal gf had abused my mum, i discovered that my paternal gf had tried to do it to me when i was 3, but nothing ever got done about it, they just kept me away from him, my maternal gf tried to do it when i was 11 or so, but i didn't tell until i was 16, on both sides i had female cousins living with their daughters and i was in bits as to what to do, as noone else seemed to care(it is now resolved, both cousins have moved out)) I had been reported to the benefits agency by someone saying my dp lived with me, which isn't true, i believe it was my creepy neighbour who i reported to the police for watching through my fence into my home on a night, and so i was worrying about what he would next try to do, and what i could do about it, i've been worrying about the benefits agency, I have been having exams on my college course..

My friend is seeing a therapist, she says its for her to try and sort out why she does silly things, i tell her its because she drinks too much, but she doesn't see it like that, she is constantly anyaysing herself, and her actions and whether her therapist was looking at her breasts, and she has just generally irrated me lately, her kids whine all the time because she babies them, they are 6 and 9, and i know everyones parenting is different, i just hate that her 6 year old got bought a £10 toy because he cried and cried(and got carried round Asda!) because i made an offhand comment about him being careful as he was slapping my dcs hands that where holding on to the trolley. I also felt quite upset as her dd had a sleepover with about 6 friends, and didn't invite my dd-which is fine, i know it was up to the dd who she invited, it was just i know for definate my dd would never have dremed of leaving her dd out of anything like that, and if my dd ever found out that she'd been left out she'd be devestated, the said friend gave a piss poor excuseof that my dd would be at her Dads, but she knew that her Dad would not have minded missing a night for a special occasion, also, when i asked said friend if she'd mind having dc2 for a few hours, she gave a really shit excuse-i don't mind that she didn't want to have her, thats totlly fine, but why not be honest? she knows that is what i value over anything else in life, all she had to say was i'm too tired, can't be arsed, whatever, but just the truth!

Right i will get to the point-i went out with said friend and a couple of others on Sat night, I haven't been out for quite a long time, dp was out with his friends, i gave him a key for the first time ever, so if we didn't manage to meet when we where out then we could meet back at mine, Anyway after a couple of drinks, everything came to a head and me and the said friend argued, i was extremly upset, dp called, and i said i couldn't speak to him just then and i ran off, OK, it was stupid, but i was upset and drunk, i went and sat in a quiet bar and tried to collect my thoughts, i had turned my phone off. It took me hours to get a taxi and when i finally got home, i doscovered dp had consumed 2 bottles of wine on top of whatever he had already had, vomited all over my cream bedroom carpet and used my hoover to suck it up then tried scrubbing it with cold water and a washing up sponge before passing out, it was up my walls, carpet, over my make-up toiletries, under my bed...you get the picture.
I started shouting at him, he eventually woke up, started scrubbing again with the same dirty water, i kept telling him to change it but he kept ignoring me, he eventually did and i went and got in my dds bed and left him to it, after i had put the curtains in the washer. I thought i could hear the tap dripping so i called to him telling him to turn it off, to which he stormed into her room, even though i had wedged a chair under the handle, started calling me a 'thick fck' it wasn't the tap its the washer, you thick fck, shouting in my fce that he had seem my mate, they all hated me, they couldn't wait to get away from me that night, i had ruined everybodies night including his..etc, he just kept screaming at me, i told him to get out, that couldn't he even leave me be in my dds room, but no he couldn't, i threatened to ring the police, he was calling my a selfish B**ch, in the end i did call them to ask them if they'd remove him from my house as he was intimidating me, he was, i was scared and shaking. They did, i then got lots of abousive text messages till 7 in the morning.

I had a couple of hours sleep and then spent the rest of the day going out to buy new beding, hoover etc and cleaning everything, he came round with flowers and apologising. Apparantly he had met up with my friend in taxi and she had told him everything that had happened, apparantly they both had a good bitching session about me-i heard that from both of them about each other. He then went round to her house when i wouldn't let him in on Saturday, and she has texted me saying they only spoke out of concern for me, WTF, It was out of concern that he practically broke my dds door down? That she would tell him i ruined her night? Oh and he also said the poor little thing was crying in the taxi, err, hang on, what about his bloody gf weeping in a pub in the middle of town?? They made no atempt to find me, just jumped in a taxi and went home.

So i am not speaking to either of them atm, i feel so betrayed and hurt, that he would put her before me, and scream in my face what she(apparantly) told him, that he was upset she was crying in the taxi but quite happy to continue making me feel helpless and crying hysterically while shouting obscenities at me, That she would run to my boyfriend after we have argued..

I just don't know what to do or think, i don't know if anything went on between them, 2 former partners of mine have said that she tried to kiss them, yet i ignored them, thought she'd never do that to me.

I know i probably sound neurotic or a bitch, but i have tried to be there for her, she actually punched me in front of my dd one time because she was upset about something and i managed to forgive her, and she hit me hard with her handbag once, while she was gonig through a divorce-is it me? am i being selfish? I feel like i should go to the GP and ask for help in case it is me, i know i have been snappy lately, but i think thats cigarette withdrawel-i just don't know, i feel so unhappy, and we're meant to be gonig on holiday at the end of the week, what should i do about that?

sorry its so long, i didn't want to do the drip feed posts
Any advice gratefully received, even if harsh-i can take it!

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controlfreakythecontrolfreak · 07/04/2009 00:44

err, that's quite long! there's an awful lot of "stuff" there..... but i'm left not really knowing what it is about.... what do you think you are being unreasonable about exactly? what do you want to happen? they both sound horrid.

itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 00:47

i know control! wanted to get everything in. Erm i suppose its 2 different isues, whether i forgive (d)p and what i do about my friend. I don't feel very forgiving towards him at the moment, and i also don't feel like my children should have to miss out on a first proper holiday for years, but i'm not really going to be able to go without him, as for my friend, i don't know how i feel about her a tthe moment.

I suppose i'm asking if i'm being reasonable for feeling angry and betrayed or if i brought it on myself?

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HolyGuacamole · 07/04/2009 00:48

Jesus. Ditch the friend, ditch the man, don't drink for a while and take the time to sort yourself out and meet decent friends. Your life sounds really crazy and TBH it is not good for the kids. Even if they don't see it, the fallout is in you and your emotions that are entangled in it all. Your friend and DP have shown exactly how much they think of you by conniving behind your back, regardless of anything else happening, who cares? Leave them to their own devices.

Sounds like you won't have peace in your life whilst all the madness is going on. Sort your head out, get rid of these people and don't even think about relationships till you are independent and happy in your own skin. You need to have a calm life to attract calm people and true friends.

BlueJellie · 07/04/2009 00:48

I also am confused as to the main point of your post - BUT from what I gather you need to cut both of these people out of your lives. Your friendship with this woman sounds toxic - and the temper you describe from your DP is surely a warning sign that you should cut ties with him as well. I would be mortified if I had acted so dreadfully drunk or not drunk.

itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 00:50

it just really irks me that she comes accross to people as naive and a littly bit pink and fluffy and because i'm more hard faced, people seem to think i don't have feelings

I think our friendship is finished, i think by my posts i am coming across as jealous of her, but i really don't think i am, just annoyed.

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itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 00:53

oh x posted blue and holy, the thing is dp is usually a decent bloke(i think) but you're right, there is nothing to say he wouldn't do it again, shall i just forget about the hol then and try and find a camp site or something? DD1 is going to be so upset. I hate myself for letting this happen, I hardly ever drink and the one time i do, this happens

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HolyGuacamole · 07/04/2009 00:54

Sounds like you want to dump her, keep him and go on holiday.

That will not solve your problems, instead you will embark on a possibly abusive relationship with no friends to turn to the next time he screams obscenities in your face or spews on your carpet, ruins your things. But it is your call at the end of the day.

HolyGuacamole · 07/04/2009 00:55

The kids will get over it and camping is amazingly exciting for children.

itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 00:57

Holy-i don't think i want to do that, i would always chose friendship over relationship, i'm just trying to work out if there is anythnig worth salvaging from our friendship-i don't know if she is manipulative, or if just think that.

I think i need to try and get some sleep, well, actually, i thinki need some support but the 2 people i would usually turn to are the reason that i feel so rubbish, maybe i'll feel better tomorrow, thank you for all the replies.

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BlueJellie · 07/04/2009 01:00

I mean this in the best possible way, but staying with a bloke for the sake of a holiday is ridiculous! There will be many more opportunities for you and your DD - also she needs her mummy to be in a happy secure relationship with a decent bloke - not one that bitches to her best mate & chucks up all over her house like a pathetic teenage boy on a bender. 3 words YOU DESERVE BETTER.

thumbbunny · 07/04/2009 01:03

Alcohol is no excuse really - unless he plans to give up drinking entirely, you run the risk of a similar scenario every time he gets drunk and you do something he doesn't like. Are you prepared to put up with that for the rest of your life?

Dump the friend. She ain't one any more. Friends don't indulge in bitching sessions with your OH behind your back.

TheLadyEvenstar · 07/04/2009 01:20

Hi Hunni

keep ya chin up get rid of her NOW!!! and as for him....well only you can decide you know that. But remember you have done it alone before and can do it again if you need to ok !
You know where I am if you need to talk xxx

and don't forget the 25th xxxxxxxxxx

itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 10:45

thank you everyone, well...the MN jury has spoken-i have text him and told him he can have the holiday, deleted them both from fb, msn etc. I have spoken to dd1 about the hol, she is disapointed but understands that he got nasty the other night and i don't want to risk it happening again, especially not in a foreign country.

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HolyGuacamole · 07/04/2009 10:58

Wahey! Good for you lady! Now take yourself and daughter away for a couple of days, relax and have a nice time to yourselves then come back with a fresh outlook on your life!

Well done!

itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 11:02

thanks holy, camping with 2 girlies and a 18 mo should be great fun

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Nontoxic · 07/04/2009 11:12

I think it's brilliant that you've talked about this with your DD - what message would it give her about male/female relationships if her mum took her on holiday with the man who'd nearly broken her bedroom door down?

Keep in mind that you're her role model and she deserves one with a clear head and a strong sense of her own worth.

thumbbunny · 07/04/2009 12:39

I hope you got a feeling of relief when you had done it!

itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 12:44

thanks nontoxic, i think its sh*t that i have to explain to my dd that she can't go on hol because yet again her mother chose the wrong person to have a relationship with, but also, yes i agree, i do try to instill in her that if someone hurts you in anyway, you do not have to continue to let them do it.

thumbbunny-yeah i kind of did, like i've made a decision and that takes the pressure off iyswim.

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ChippingIn · 07/04/2009 19:07

itsbeenashock - well done Neither of them are worth you spending any more time on/with.

Have you heard back from the text you sent him??

I hope you manage to get away for a few days with the girls, it will do you all good.

You have been through an awful lot, there must be loads of things whirling around in your head. Maybe it's time to have some time on your own to sort through it all and see where you are at before you get into another relationship... see if you can work out why you keep picking guys who treat you like crap - generally we do destructive things for a reason and when you work through that, maybe you will be attracted to a different type of guy... one who will treat you and your girls much, much , much better x

Stay strong x

wotulookinat · 07/04/2009 19:24

I would definitely have nothing to do with him again - that anger and shouting could get much worse.
As for your friend - talk to her.

toddlerama · 07/04/2009 19:49

YANBU to dump him like a hot potato! What an awful night for you.

As for her...If multiple partners have claimed that she tried to kiss them, what would you think if it wasn't you, but someone else (IYSWIM)? One false accusation, maybe. But two? And then she runs crying to your boyfriend when you have a row? She sounds like a stirrer at best and more likely a serial 'other woman'. You and your girls deserve friends with less drama!

slowreadingprogress · 07/04/2009 20:19

'less drama' sums it upp toddlerama

There are people out there to be friends with and have relationships with, who are actually grown ups. I think you deserve better

I also think that it sounds like time to make friendships/relationships that are not based on the pub/socialising in that way that we all do as teenagers

Go to an evening class, get a voluntary job if you don't work, learn scuba diving, join a book club or something - so you can meet people and have some hopes that it'll be a grown up - the behaviour of your friend and ex just sound like schoolkid behaviour to me, it's cringeworthy if they're over 17

slowreadingprogress · 07/04/2009 20:20

up, not upp!

itsbeenashock · 07/04/2009 20:40

thanks all.

i'm trying to stay positive, to be fair he is 5 years younger than me, so i should have known better to get involved with someone so young, and i wasn't in a relationship for over a year, but that was throughout my pg and up until lo was 8 months old, but i was probably still vunerable.

He has offered to put everything with the holiday in my name so i could probably still go, just not sure if i want to.

Also its dds birthday party tomorrow and the 'friend' is going with her children and ex 's mum and her dd are going, i'd much rather they where not but i can't punish the dcs for it can i.

I am at college and still have work friends from before i left to have lo, i've also been loking for another job, so life will get back on track hopefully soon

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