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To want to make a health and safety report against a local pub because unsupervised children in their beer garden caused injury to my child

36 replies

thelionmummy · 05/04/2009 17:51

OK, so i might be being a TAD pfb here, but my DD has hit her head due to the over boistrous behaviour of unsupervised children at a pub today. We had a lovely day at a local farm/playground - decided to stop for a beer and a packet of crisps and let DD play in the beer garden, over looking the sea - ah, lovely! You would think. But no - had to stop DD playing on the slide and play house due to much older children being too rough - they stopped playing on it but then when we let DD back on the other kids were messing about at the bottom of the slide and she ended up hitting her head. Bump on back of head - ended in tears . It was just on the tip of mine and DP's tongues to tell them to be careful, but you know how it is - too late!

The thing is, the children clearly friends of the landlords as they went in through the kitchen. Their parents were in the bar pissing it up and NOT SUPERVISING them, despite signs up stating ALL CHILDREN MUST BE SUPERVISED AT ALL TIMES!!!

I wanted to go and say something to the landlord but didn't because i felt that i would be shouted down. I think the pub is a free house rather than a brewery run.

I guess i'll just have to let it go - but wondered if anyone else had similar experience or advice.

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SomeMightSay · 05/04/2009 19:28

There isn't much anyone can do after the event. I think you just need to accept that these things happen.
It's not a health and safety issue unless the equiptment is dangerous. You cannot do a risk assessment on the possibility of older children being around the same time as young children or the possible strength of children. At most, if you had gone to the landlord, he may have filled out an incident report because someone was 'injured' on site but nothing would have come of it.
When I take my toddler to the park and he gets knocked over by an older kid, should I phone the council and tell them about it? No.
I also think that injury is a tad strong. Was your dd bleeding? I'd hardly call a bump on the head an injury unless it results in something serious.

FfreckleFface · 05/04/2009 19:36

'What sort of parents piss it up in the pub on a lovely sunday afternoon - ignoring their fecking kids!!! '

Lucky ones.

I think you are being a little unreasonable, and PFB. You let her go back on the slide - as has already been said, the landlord was not at fault, even if he is friends with the parents of the older children.

Sorry your day got spoiled though, sounds like it was lovely until this happened. Is your little girl ok now?

ScottishMummy · 05/04/2009 19:38

always upsetting when your child gets hurt.but in reality the pub wasn't negligent at all.the slide was provided on the understanding that it was to be used safely and appropriately. bumps literally happen in seconds.every parent has had that lump in throat as something happens out of the blue

put it down to experience

TheCrackFox · 05/04/2009 19:42

If you complain what would actually happen? Maybe the landlord will be sick of the hassle and just get rid of the play area?

Getting hurt is part of childhood. Well, it was until about 15 yrs ago when injury compensation lawyers started making people think that an accident had to be blamed on someone.

Believe it or not when your DD is about 6/7 yrs old you won't feel the need to supervise every single thing she does.

FluffyBunnyGoneBad · 05/04/2009 19:44

Sorry, I agree with the others. It's not the pub's responsibility to supervise children, they belong to their parents, who should be watching them. If you are mad at anyone you should be mad at the parents who would rather sit and drink beer then watch what their children are doing. The last time I went to a pub for a meal with ds and my friend older children started throwing bottles at ds, their parents just sat and drunk their beer. It was only when I went and stood watching them where I could be seen their father got up and told them off. It's the same principle as going to the park, it's not the councils responsibility to supervise children.

macdoodle · 05/04/2009 19:53

How old were the older ones - my DD1 is 7 and she would be fine playing in a beer garden if I was inside wishful thinking as I would be closely supervising DD2 who is 15 months !
YABU sorry

Dillydaydreamer · 05/04/2009 20:05

YABVU! Had you been adequately supervising your own child it would have been prevented!
You were the adult and by proxy were the only supervisor. If that had been me I would have said please move so that my dd can have a turn or can you mind the little one please. Usually it only takes a stern word /chat and they stop.

FluffyBunnyGoneBad · 05/04/2009 20:07

You've not had a good weekend have you lionmummy? The dog poo lady yesterday, this today. You do sound quite angry with the world at the moment. Are you alright?

thelionmummy · 05/04/2009 20:20

lol - i am a very angry person aren't i!! I've calmed down now - i think i just was pissed off as it was one of those pubs when you walk in everyone looks you up and down if you are a "stranger in these here parts" So my hackles were already up.

But im fine and have had a lovely weekend.

i often post on AIBU and am told to take a chill pill - but i dont really need to as i vent my spleen here and not in RL - apart from with the dog lady, but i think she just got it because i have had enough of dog shit!

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FluffyBunnyGoneBad · 05/04/2009 20:22

It's OK. It just sounds like you're really pissed with the world at the moment. Maybe start a thread about something not angry related ?

steviesgirl · 06/04/2009 00:28

YABU. Accidents happen fgs! You can't go blaming everyone else for your dd bumping her head. Yes, so there was boisterous older kids in the playground? You see them everyday in every play area, you have to learn to accept that fact. If you dislike your child being at any risk at all, stop her playing on stuff altogether and ultimately wrap her up in cotton wool, thus not doing her any good in the long run.

H&S report? Don't make me laugh. Oh, and you can't really criticise other parents for "pissing it up", being that you were a patron at the pub yourself. If you disagree with parents having a drink and letting their kids go off and play then don't go in pubs that welcome families yourself.

Does the world owe you something all the time OP?

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