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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think that the main reason dh doesn't want to learn how to use the sling is because he can't be arsed to effectively parent 2 children?

44 replies

raisingrrrl · 22/03/2009 14:28

Dd was born 4 weeks ago and is pretty much a model baby - she sleeps well, she feeds like a dream and is the easiest baby I've ever come across. However, she does like to be held a lot and I've found that the simplest way to accomplish this and to achieve some sort of normal family life is to wear her in a wrap like this. If I have her in the sling, I can do all the things I did before she was born - including look after her big brother, who is 2.

Dh - on the other hand - seems to panic when faced with both of our offspring, and has yet to take them both out alone. He will look after ds in the mornings at the weekend so I can have a sleep with dd, but this is on the condition that he gets to have a nap later. When I get downstairs, usually he is sat on his laptop while ds either trashes the living room in front of him, or parked in front of CBeebies - or sometimes a combination of both. By contrast, while he is upstairs sleeping with ds I have (somehow) managed to do the washing up, tidy the living room and sweep the kitchen and dining room - all while looking after dd. How have I accomplished this? By having her tucked up on my chest in the wrap! Yet dh refuses to even try it and won't give a valid reason why not.

It's doing my head in that while I just have to get on and cope with 2 children he has the option to fanny about and whinge about how much he hates his job and how much harder his daily grind is to mine. While I don't deny that he works very hard in a job he hates, I don't exactly have a picnic all day either. I work much harder now doing fulltime childcare (although admittedly ds is in nursery 2.5 days a week) than I did when I was in paid employment! I can't wait to get back to work when dd is 12 months - it'll mean I get a break 3 days a week!

So - AIBU? Has anyone got any tips for how I can get dh to at least try taking care of both our children?

OP posts:
BathTub · 22/03/2009 20:00

Men find babies boring imo.

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/03/2009 20:00

nannynick ime (my dh) it is not a case of panic as such but of knowing very well how complicated and time and mind consuming it is.

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/03/2009 20:00

so do some women.

beforesunrise · 22/03/2009 20:02

pippi, i think 4 weeks is really extremely young. it gets easier and better with age. my dh couldn't have coped with the two at that stage, hell, i barely coped myself!!

that's only my experience though...

hedgiemum · 22/03/2009 20:11

YANBU to want him to make an effort with the child/red he's looking after, rather than sitting at a laptop. Whether he uses the sling to help with this or not is up to him.

My DH will get up with DC (6,4,2)and make their breakfast at the w/e at the moment, as I'm pregnant. However, he then sits and watches cbeebies with them. I come down to a mess of breakfast dishes, and 4 people wearing pj's. He does it to pressure me into getting up as soon as possible; he likes doing hands on daddy things with me there to praise him, or outside of the house things with them, but not indoor things involving tidying up while I'm asleep. I've just accepted it as part of the deal with getting to sleep in!

4 week olds are quite intimidating to some men - including mine. But Daddys come in their own with the older DC when a new baby born, and he should be giving him lots of attention and fun. Try to encourage this, rather than going on about the sling thing (although I know they work so well for many, I've never got to grips with them personally. It just felt so precarious.)

Then again, if he's feeling very lethargic all weekend perhaps his feelings about work are getting a bit too much for him to handle... I'd keep an eye on him for depression if I were you...

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/03/2009 20:11

ah 4 weeks yes I forgot! still why the difference? if you can cope why can't he? only a question. when we moved to new house - not finished dd2 was 1 week, I had a horrible back pain that was so bad I could not bend without crying (imagine picking and changing newborn) and yet I was left on my own. also went to ikea whith both when dd2 was 10 days. now I would not ask that because is for idiots bt certainly to saty at home and taking care of your own children.
If I am so strongly opinionated about this is because 1) I saw that the more you accept the less changes 2) I cannot believe I have let myself get to this stage. so I might be well biased about this.

beforesunrise · 22/03/2009 20:17

pippi it sounds like you had a rough time. i am really sorry... unfortunately i am of the opinion that men are simply not capable of doing 90% of the things that mothers do, without even noticing or complaining. it's only when i challenge this fact (that i have observed over and over) that i get very depressed. otherwise i just get on with it...

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/03/2009 20:20

do not be sorry. you should be sorry if you were my dh at the moment

on that I agree with you but it's sad. and what shall we do? just accept and go on and then divorce and get nothing in terms of both recognition and money for what we've done for years? (I've seen it in my family so I know.)

I was going to say smthing else but forgot now...

laumiere · 22/03/2009 20:26

Raisinggrrl am exactly in your position regarding the kids (DS1 is almost 3, but has CP and so needs to be carried/pushed most places) and DS2 is also 4 weeks old.

I got round it by having an osteopath appointment booked tomorrow, DH has to use a sling to pick up DS from nursery as DS needs to be pushed in his Major buggy. DH's initial resistance to the sling was more because he was unconvinced it was safe (we have a Huggabub) but after a few trips out with me and the babe in it he was converted! Having said that need to teach him to tie it!

viggoandjavier · 22/03/2009 20:28

don't agree bs, tehy have to learn, leave them with the kids and bugger off to the library, and tell him you want a full meal when are you back. if you do decide to come back.

i think the best thing is to come to an agreement about whose chores are whose (grammar,boh?) and stick to that. when i want a day off i tell dp and viceversa. to be honest dp i think likes it when i am not around...we don;t have arguments about lie ins as the kids sleep in late and i love my mornings with them normally. I don't know it is hard, but don;t put up with what makes you uncomfortable

damon do you think this anger you feel about the mother's day fuck up is really about something else? (cheap psychology emoticon)

viggoandjavier · 22/03/2009 20:29

men not capable of what most women can do? bollocks! maybe breastfeeding....

compo · 22/03/2009 20:33

why don't you all just get up and go out instead of this his/her lie ins and his/her naps
just all get up and go out to the zoo or something

viggoandjavier · 22/03/2009 20:38

it is nice to mix a bit,some family days, some alone days for both the mum and the dad, you cannot be glued to each other the whole bloody time no?

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/03/2009 20:38

compo what an eloquent contribution to the topic!

viggoandjavier · 22/03/2009 20:50

very eloquent indeed.

raisingrrrl · 28/03/2009 19:05

hi - sorry to have not been back to the thread before now. Thank you all for your ideas, things have settled down a bit now, I think as dd gets older things will get easier.

I agree that newborns are more a mother's remit, especially if breastfeeding, which I am. It also doesn't help that I'm too lazy to express/sterilize etc etc, so dh is rather excluded from the feeding process. He is getting more involved with ds though, they went to the IL's today, although that meant ds came home in the usual overwrought state. Although that's a whole other AIBU thread!!

OP posts:
mummy2isla · 29/03/2009 22:35

Get a baby bjorn sling from ebay - my husband loved carrying our daughter around in it! Besides if one baby didn't like it doesn't mean the second one will. And maybe he could do more 'manly' jobs? Mine always used to mow the lawn with dd in the sling!

Gracie123 · 30/03/2009 01:18

My DH thought wearing a babysling looked gay, until he tried it.

He still thinks it looks gay, and tries to wear it under a jacket (less obvious in public) but loves how much DS enjoys being part of his excursions (he coaches some junior rugby teams and often 'wears' DS on the side lines.

I think your DH might need a while to get used to the idea, but I'm sure he'll come around.

primigravida · 30/03/2009 03:51

DH was initially reluctant but when he learnt about how much flexibility it gave us to do things we'd always done he embraced babywearing wholeheartedly. We started off with a baby bjorn we were given and then bought an ergo when ds started to get heavy. I'd strongly recommend an ergo as they're less girly looking and you can use them up to the age of three.

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