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Or is she? Or are we both as bad

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squilly · 10/03/2009 10:32

Long story. Background first.. DD is 8. Has 2 best friends, one from reception, one from Y1. The second child, let's call her Molly, has become very close to DD and the three kids are great friends.

I am friends with Molly's mum. We get on well. She can be a little prickly (well, a lot actually) and has made a few enemies in her time in the playground, but underneath the prickle she's a good woman. And lets face it, none of us are perfect!

Molly's mum has always made little comments about my dd and how easy she finds school life, education, etc compared to her dd who isn't showing academic flair yet (she's only 7 though...dd has 6 months on her and is a different personality...at this age, it means little). I get annoyed every now and again, but let it go. It's no big deal.

Then last week dd had a bit of a meltdown at Molly's mums house whilst I was there. It was about, would you believe, a spelling! She got it wrong a couple of times and burst into tears.

On the run up to the episode she was being a bit highly strung, but I figured she was tired, so no big deal. When she freaked out, it made the playdate for the mums quite uncomfortable, particularly when molly's mum started asking me all kinds of questions about my dd's behaviour. Was she struggling at school at the moment? Was she perhaps feeling the pressure of not being the best (she's usually top 5 in the class) were things starting to tell on her now they were getting harder?

I tried to say it was just 'one of those things' hoping she'd stop talking about it, but she kept bringing it up, saying that dd was heading for a nervous breakdown if she didn't calm down about things.

I let the playdate feeling very uncomfortable and I knew that molly's mum would be itching to tell our mutual friends about my dd's behaviour (she has a bit of a judgey thing going on....I always try to play things down, but I can see where she's going on this).

so...next night when I go to pick up the girl from school molly's mum is waiting for me in the playground. Is dd o.k.? She asks. Yes, fine I say. Do you think she takes after you? She asks...and pick, pick, pick she starts again! I was a bit and responded by being sarky.

Yes, I said, I was always crying outside the bosses office when things went wrong at work, I said. Then I pointedly said DD takes after my DH...I tend to let things go a lot more easily than she does. But molly's mum just kept picking. I got more and more sarcastic.

At the end of the night (Friday), as the parent's disappeared, molly's mum was talking about something else and she said 'see I'm not that weird' and I said, with a big grin on my face, 'I'm not so sure about that, we'll have to talk about it later'!

Cue Monday morning. Molly's mum isn't talking to me. AT all! Talk about uncomfortable! She's organised a playdate with another friend of her dd's and my dd usually tags along on these (at her invitation) and so, of course, she latches on to her best mate and angles for a playdate...which she gets. But molly's mom makes it plain she's not happy about it (to me). I try to talk dd into coming home, but we all know, that's not happening!

So...now it's Tuesday. She's still not talking to me. I keep chatting away and it's like pulling teeth. So now it's uncomfortable.

I behaved like a child with the sarcasm...but I was worried about dd and I didn't really want judgements being made about/to me, so I snapped.

I thought, however, that this would just die...but it's not the case.

What do I do? Part of me thinks stuff it...let her be as uncomfy as I clearly am. Then the grown up in me thinks apologise. She'll either forgive or not, but I'll have done all I can with it.

So...mums (or dads) what do I do now to put things right???

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iwontbite · 10/03/2009 10:42

talk to her!
explain why you responded like that, and apologise for being sarky with her.
but tbh she is being childish now as well, so ought to apologise too.

but nothing will change unless you talk to her. she may just be one of those people who doens't get when they need to shut up, perhaps you should have said something at the tme?/

anyway, talk to her, smooth things over.

100yearsofsolitude · 10/03/2009 10:49

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squilly · 10/03/2009 10:53

I'm with you to some degree 100years, but our daughters are best mates. How do you get past that bit??? It's making the school runs awkward, which I can live with, but it's making the playdate situation even more awkward!

How do you tell an 8 year old that she can't be friends with Molly any more cos her mum and Molly's mom are both behaving like 5 year olds?

Were it not for that, believe me, I'd happily walk away from this mess....I feel too old to be drawn into petty squabbles.

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squilly · 10/03/2009 10:54

So Iwon'tbite's answer was probably nearer where I was with this (but that's with my sensible, 44 year old head on...not my 3 year old, bob my tongue out head on - which I have to say is a better fit for me this morning

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Gorionine · 10/03/2009 11:00

If you relly want to patch things up just go and talk to her, explaining why you "snapped".

I am not sure why she took why you said to her so badly actually from your OP it did not sound too bad.

I would probably have snapped much earlier if she had been going on about my DD!

Maybe, just maybe, she thought that you would appreciate her concern about your DD and was hurt becauswe you didn't? That is the only way I can explain it.

RumourOfAHurricane · 10/03/2009 11:01

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squilly · 10/03/2009 11:11

Thanks for advice. I know it's a non-problem to some degree. I've got friends who have marriages breaking down, partners leaving them for other women. Those are real problems!

This is just me, too much time on my hands, too much heart on my sleeve, too involved with other people and their lives.

And I thought she was my friend. I guess I am upset at the thought of losing a friends over something so small, so dumb.

I'll go away and get a grip.

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100yearsofsolitude · 10/03/2009 11:20

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somuchtrouble · 10/03/2009 11:37

You have a choice to make. You can either try and make amends and put up with her behaviour (commenting on other people's DC is NOT on) or you can make amends but back away or you can just let it blow over.

I think you would be better letting the DC be friends but cutting ties with the mother - she sounds crazy.

oldraver · 10/03/2009 14:25

It sounds as tho Mollys Mum has a little bit of an inferiority complex around herself and her daughter, with the constant references to your 'clever' daughter. She probably saw your DD's slight meltdown as a chance to gloat she wasnt so perfect after all(in her eyes), why else would she constantly harp on and niggle as to your daughters welfare. It sounded as though it went beyond concern and more into malevolent glee. Your sarcy response and eventual exasperated put down, however smiley it was, was obviuosly too much for her

Yes if tyou want to keep the peace apologise but you need to tell her that the gleefull niggling wasnt on and had upset you. She sounds very insecure

squilly · 10/03/2009 16:20

Thanks all. I do think it's a little bit of inferiority complex going on, oldraver, but I can relate to that as I've been there, done that got the very, very large tee shirt with the very, very small logo!

And there was definitely glee involved...though I tried to ignore it. I know it's just the way this woman is...pull down someone else and make yourself feel better. I always try to make her see the positive side, or I change the subject, but this time she picked on my child, which was much harder to ignore.

Anyway...life moves on a pace. I found out today a good friend nearly lost her baby (but thank God, all seems to be well now) and another friend has just been to visit her 23 year old nephew who was set on fire and abused over a period of several hours!!!

I'd decided to let it go, distance myself as best I could and see how things went as life's short and problems come in lots of sizes and shapes and this was pretty small potatoes. BUT Mol's mum was nearly (in the company of a mutual friend) civil. I think she's coming round.

And I think that I'll be a little more cautious in future about how close I get!

Thanks for the help though Ladies. I definitely needed someone to point out to me that this wasn't as big a mare as I'd built it up in my head to be. And circumstances and life conspired to show me it really doesn't matter a jot in the scale of things.

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RumourOfAHurricane · 10/03/2009 17:45

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squilly · 10/03/2009 20:20

Not at all snappy shineon. And feeling much better thanks Don't you just love Mumsnet!

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