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AIBU to think 3 mobile is a joke?

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Gracie123 · 04/03/2009 22:18

I know.

Everyone warned me about the shitty customer service you get from 3 mobile, and their atrocious call centres, but would I listen? If only I'd been that sensible...

The problem is this, I did go into a carphone warehouse store on february the 16th and ask if I was eligible for an upgrade. They rang 3 to check how long I had had the contract for; I'd like to point out here that I was present for the phone call and heard it all.

They agree that I was actually eligible a long time ago (I took the contract out in 2006) and start offering me deals. Unfortunately none of the deals are as good as the one I'm on (inflation worked in my favour for once - ha ha!) so I decided not to take anything. They actually advised me to go and check in some other shops in the trafford centre and see if anyone could match the deal - I didn't bother, but that's mostly because I'm lazy.

One week later I recieve a phone call from 3 mobile insurance agents asking me if I'd like to insure my fancy new handset. Huh?

I have spent the last week arguing with 3 over whether I took an upgrade from them (note: I have been hung up on twice, and several times had them say 'I'm sorry madam I don't understand the question'). Carphone Warehouse have no record of an upgrade and insist that they have had no dealings with me since June 2007 (when I took out my other phone contract). After a frustratingly long phone call today, I finally decided to take a different approach, so I rang the carphone warehouse and asked them if we could do a conference call with 3. They were only too happy to oblige.

Throughout this call the guy from 3 is constantly talking over me and Debbie (the nice lady from CPW) and shouts her down on several occasions (the amusing part was when she finally lost it and cried 'JUST LET ME SPEAK!'). He insists that all upgrades are non-reversible and I am locked into a 12 month contract - which is a lot more expensive than my previous one.

Good old Debbie pulls up some pages off the internet and starts reading him statutes that say even if I had agreed to the upgrade (which they have no paperwork or evidence to enforce) I am entitled to a cooling period, so they should be able to reverse it for that reason. He insists that regardless of UK law, 3's policy is never to reverse an upgrade for any reason at all. When Debbie points out that this is illegal he states, 'it doesn't matter, it is 3's policy.'

He will not allow us to speak to another person, and when Debbie requests a copy of the phone conversations between 3 & myself and 3 & the store that the upgrade supposedly happens in he says no. Debbie again points out that I am legally entitled to request a copy of these calls and he keeps saying no. Eventually he decides that they were not recorded. How convenient.

Debbie points out that he couldn't have checked that quickly and he says that they definitely weren't. She asks him to go and look again. He puts us on hold for 30 seconds and says 'I told you they weren't.'

At this point you can hear Debbie trying not to laugh as she says he couldn't possibly have searched the phone records that fast. He puts us on hold for a further two minutes and says 'No, as I thought they were not recorded.'

Right. Like I'm supposed to believe he actually checked. More likely he put us on hold for two minutes whilst he picked his nose or whatever else he was doing then said 'no'.

I'm not really sure where to go from here. Debbie is having a hard time sorting anything out as she has no record of a transaction to fault. She speaks to one of her managers and they agree to launch an investigation personally as a gesture of good faith to me, and try to help build up a case against 3. Unfortunately they can't see any way of this being resolved, particularly as 3 have that habit of refusing to pass you on to any kind of management. CPW's legal team have been sent a transcript of our conference call and Debbie says they will help me out if they can.

I only went with 3 in the first place because they were cheapest, but nowadays they are not even cheapest. Virgin do a contract mobile for £8.50 per month! So not only are they no longer the cheapest, they are still the worst customer service I have ever experienced, and happily, knowingly breaking the law.

My advice - don't even think about going near them.

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HolyGuacamole · 04/03/2009 22:23

Write to the Managing Directors office, they will call you straight away and solve your problem within 7 days. I had major probs with 3 about a year ago. Their call centres are hellish. You have my full sympathy.

I will try to find the address for you.

kormachameleon · 04/03/2009 22:23

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HolyGuacamole · 04/03/2009 22:26

Here you are:

Kevin Russell
Managing Director
3 Mobile
123 St Vincent Street
Glasgow
G2 5EA

HTH

SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 04/03/2009 22:28

Get ofcom involved. Phone companies have to pay for any investigation that is launched. They don't like this and will often give you what you want, even if you are in the wrong, to avoid an investigation as it is cheaper for them.

Gracie123 · 04/03/2009 22:32

THANK YOU!!!!! Really can't take much more of this

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bigmouthstrikesagain · 04/03/2009 22:48

you are so not unreasonable it hurts!

I am locked in a contract with 3 for another 6 months and it feels like a prison sentence I am virtually crossing off the days on my calendar! When liberation day arrives I will run, run like the wind...

I won't go into my tale of woe suffice to say it involves a faulty phones and hours of frustrating and pointless calls to 'helpful' call centre staff ...

nnibnabs · 04/03/2009 22:54

3 mobile are the worst network i've been with in the 12 years I've had contracts. Haven't had the 'pleasure' of ringing the call centre yet, but just having a terrible time with reception and connectivity. I certainly won't be renewing contract (in a years time) Total crapola

llareggub · 04/03/2009 22:57

It took me 40 minutes to cancel my contract with 3 mobile. Honestly, the conversation when something like this:

Me: "I'd like to cancel my contract please"

3: "Why is that?"

Me: "Because I no longer seem to get a signal from you anywhere, my phone no longer works, and I want to take my business elsewhere"

3: "Before I do that, I'd like to discuss some special offers from 3"

Me: "No thanks. As I said, I..."

3: "But I can do you a very special deal. You are a very valued customer"

Me: "I really don't care. Cancel it, please"

(Conversation goes round and round in circles, eventually I get passed to the Department for Really Special Customers Wanting to Leave)

3: "I understand you want to leave us. Can I offer you a contract for £9? Go on, we know you only say you want to leave to get an offer"

Me: (very slowly) "No. I. Want. To. Leave. NOW"

3: "You won't miss £9. Just take the phone, a lovely phone, use it as a spare"

and on, and on, and on....for 40 minutes.

Go to Ofcom, Watchdog, Trading Standards....anyone, but please give 3 mobile hell.

nnibnabs · 04/03/2009 23:05

llareggub - was this when your contract ended or mid contract?
Wondering if we have a case for cancelling contract early, as we're hardly getting the service signed up/pay for. My reception goes ALL the time. I have to turn phone off and on again in order to make a call. Fing bloody shite. And I do my MNing via my mobi. Annoying when in the midst of a juicy thread for it all to bloody stop working!

Gracie123 · 04/03/2009 23:09

unfortunately if you cancel before the end of a contract you still have to pay off the contract. If you are near the end though, sometimes someone like Carphonewarehouse or phones4u will pay it off for you, so that you take out a new contract with them. Go in store and ask to speak to a manager. They have more bargaining power

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llareggub · 04/03/2009 23:11

This was way after the end of my contract. I'd been a bit lazy about investigating alternatives. I got so fed up with the lack of service that I decided to switch to a cheap pay as you go for the time being. I only really text on it, don't really want a fancy all singing all dancing phone, so I'm not interested in "free" phones. In fact, I hardly take my phone anywhere these days.

Having had a contract phone since the late 90s, I've never experienced such a bad provider as 3. I have a feeling I won't bother going back to a contract. PAYG seems better for me.

captainpeacock · 04/03/2009 23:17

3mobile is a joke. DDs friend spent all of last weekend trying to find somewhere in the house where she could get a signal from.

nnibnabs · 04/03/2009 23:19

Am getting broadband very soon, so may if I can find someone sign me up to broadband, supply me with a mobi and buy me out of 3. I'm sure theres a willing candidate SOMEWHERE who'll want my hard earned cash. Sometimes I long for the days pre mobiles! When a date couldn't cancel half hour before meeting you via text and to communicate meant to pick up a landline and dial out!

HolyGuacamole · 04/03/2009 23:38

nninabs - you CAN cancel your contract for lack of reception. It's what DH and I had to do when we moved house. Spent literally hours on the phone to various call centre staff who tried to charge us £150 to cancel early.

I wrote to the MDs office, they agreed that I should cancel with NO penalty. We had to send back our handsets etc which they paid the postage for.

The woman at the MDs office was fab. She said that in the call centres they don't have the authorisaton to do much for you when you have a problem.

There actually is 'something' somewhere in the 3 contract that talks about provision of service and your ability to cancel if you can't use the service due to signal issues.

mm22bys · 05/03/2009 07:44

Don't most upgrades involve getting a new phone? I would have thought it would be very simple to "prove" you didn't upgrade, as you have no new phone!

I am with 3, I've had no problems, but my DH changed to 3 when I did and he hates them.

They keep ringing me because I'm entitled to a new phone , but I keep telling them I don't want to get tied in for another 18-24 months thanks very much!

Saying that though, I will need to cancel my contract within the next few weeks and from this thread I am not looking forward to it! Maybe I'll let them know and then just cancel my DD...

RachieW · 05/03/2009 08:42

YANBU!! I've had a nighmare with 3 too. I tried to leave in January at the end of my 18 month contract as the reception is very poor in my area. However being a bit of a push over I got convinced by the clever sales guy into trying a new handset on the understanding that "if the reception doesn't improve send the handset back within two weeks and we'll close your account". After agreeing I got put through to recorded terms and conditions which then told me that if I even turned on the new handset I would not be able to return it so the only way to leave 3 and get out of the contract would be to pay for the handset (over £200) and a 30 day notice period. Phoned back straight away and spoke to quite a helpful woman, explained that I felt I had been lied too and asked how could I "try" the handset if turning it on meant I would have to keep it. To be fair she seemed very confused too.

Anyway she finally managed to close my account and I thought all was sorted, paid my final bill at the end of Jan, got my PUK code and moved providers. However last week I got another bill for Feb line rental which is apparently my 30 day notice period for this new contract that I was mis-sold and cancelled within about 5 mins of agreeing! Aaaaahhhh! Am now desputing this in writing and having now seen the Managing Directors address and name (a million thank yous Holy Guacomole) will be sending a copy to him too.

I initially went with 3 because they were cheap too- never again. Grrrrrr

Thrifty · 05/03/2009 09:35

Just i tip i got at the weekend. If you call 3 you end up in a call centre in india. However, they dial out from scotland, so if you call them and insist someone calls you back, in theory you should get to speak to from the uk who can help you.
(i started this post about an hour ago so apologies if someone else has said this too). I have been with 3 for a long time now, and its been a real mixed bag of good times and bad. But as i didn't take a new phone last time i was offered one, they give me a monthly discount instead,

FlorenceofArabia · 05/03/2009 10:09

YANBU. They are driving my DH to distraction with poor reception and crappy customer service. He's a very calm chap but last night I heard him yell at them "LISTEN TO ME. JUST LISTEN TO ME!". It must have been bad for them to rile him!

littleducks · 05/03/2009 10:14

are you anywhere near Maidenhead?

they have big offices here with the English call centre staff (the only use them for sales, customer service calls go abroad)

a neighbour walked into the offices and insisted it be rectified in person then and there and her problem was

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