To think this dog should not have been brought to school?

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Took ds and dd1 to school this morning. Standing right in between the two gates was a mum with a pit bull terrier so everyone had to squeeze past it.

Some of the smaller children were obviously very nervous of the dog but she still didn't move.

Given the breed of the dog AIBU to think that this mum should have left the dog at home or at very least dropped off her dcs outside the gates (our school rules stipulate that if you have a dog you should be no closer than 50 yards to the gates anyway!).

TiggyR - please look here - its a sad fact, but you will never know your dog completley and to think you own the 'perfect breed' is wrong. Every dog, like every human is an individual. for What its worth, i dont thibk this beagle is really being agressive, but there you go.

REHOME BEAGLE

Higgle, Now Mutley is a year, I want to sign him up for PAT - think he would be perfect, and the elderly/children wouldnt havev to bend down to stroke him!!

Haribos, I LOVE Doof, he is fab xx

Herbietea - I think it would be good for your DS (at 14!) to realise not all dog are horrid. Surely there are some nice dogs he can spend some time with?

While I agree with keeping dogs away from younger children, I do think, at 14, they might be able to cope with dogs - they must see them pretty much everywhere??????????????

Doof says hello to you guys too, Hertsnessex! He's off to sleep now though!!!

He is honestly what made me think of getting a dog again, when he came over i realised how much i missed having one - Andy now blames you completly that he has a 8+stone dog trying to cuddle him as we speak!!!

I have just burst out laughing and Doof responded by putting all four paws in the air and sighing heavily.

I think he wishes he weighed 8 stone

There are some LOVELY walk around by you though - must be great for the kids and Mutt!!

Wow, just realised this thread is still going.

Thanks for all your replies.

Just to clarify, I am not against taking dogs on the school run but was worried because this lady was standing right in between the school gates while all the children and their parents were trying to get past.

Lewis, no it wasn't being aggressive but was constantly having to move back and forwards to avoid being trodden on by 300 kids. Was being fairly tolerant under the circumstances tbh but I was concerned that given how powerfully built it was that if anything did happen the lady certainly would not have been able to do anything.

Have looked at the links and am willing to backtrack. It was a pit bull type but bulkier with a longer face. Definately not a staffie, much taller.

Hertsnessex - your dog is soooo gorgeous. I grew up with two of those living next door - they were big gentle giants. I got my dog for a bit of security as well (my house is fairly isolated and dh works odd shifts) but unfortunately my teeny weeny house wouldn't accomodate anything larger than a lab.

i dont think any dogs should be brought to school at all.
in my dc school, anyone who does bring a dog with them, stays outside the gates, even when they are tiny litle harmless ones. never heard anyone complain about it.

Herbietea - if you go back to the start of this thread, you will see that I totally agree with

(i) not bring dogs to schools
(ii) not tying dogs up on railings
(iii) not inflicting your dog on others.

But, none of that matters cos my dog, of course, is perfect!!

And is, at this moment on his back with all 4 paws in the air, asleep on my bed

(and I always pick up after him)

kids and mutt do love it, me more than them though i think! (Andy now attempting to drnk a cuppa with Mutt staring at him....with dribble ready to appear if a biscuit gets produced!)

I pick up after Mutley aswell, (nappysacks dont cut it anymore however.....we need biggggggg bags LOL) and if i see someone letting there dog poo and not pick it up i walk over and offer a spare i have in my pocket......!

The boys do think he is a horse, think they will get a shock in a couple of yrs when i (may) get a great dane!!!

herbietea, what.....my little baby! LOL He has another yr of growing yet

He is big, but gorgeous and i wouldnt be with out him, (at the same time, if he EVER went for one of my or anyones elses children he would be gone)

Hertnessex, I don't have a beagle! I didn't mean to give that impression. I was just using it as an example to illustrate my point. And I agree, you can never be 100% sure that you have the perfect breed, you can and should do your research so you know what you are taking on -, but no breed is completely infallible and they all have the potential to behave in away that is out of character. It's just that, sadly, some dogs seem to have a habit of behaving 'out of character' more often than others!

I dont mind one way or t'other about the dogs thing. I love them and owned responsibly they add to and enrich childrens and families lives.

What I do hate is hypocrisy - if we teach our children THAT then what hope for the future?

I seem to remember reading that more kids are killed by cars than by dogs - can anyone confirm this? If so perhaps the "no dogs at school, at all, ever, no way jose" brigade can swear publicly that they dont take the car to or near a school either?

Might it be hypocritical otherwise? Not sure what you feel? I am quite happy that dogs and cars and buggies are at the school gates, but not if they foul/bite, speed or park on the yellow lines, and block the pavement/gates respectively.

Not sure what you all think?

Love Wends.(newbie)

I take my spaniel on the school walk. Somedays it is the only exercise she gets.

I stand outside the entrance to the playground (or else ds would not see me), but not so people have to pass closely by. I hold her tightly on the lead (which includes a muzzle harness) and make her sit still. If kiddies want to stroke her I make her stay down.

For those of you with kids petrified by dogs, do you think you may have contributed to that by your uncompromising stance that dogs don't belong near schools and are somehow to be maintained on the the very fringes of normal society? You are reinforcing their fear, not responsible dog owners.

Now the knuckle-draggers with aggressive dogs who force them in your face and don't pick up their shite are contemptible. Save your wrath for them.

Right ok!!

I've not read the whole thread cos I've gotten so annoyed by some of the comments on here.

Firstly pit bulls are illegal and so are pit bull mixes. If you are found to have a pit bull or pit bull mix (no matter how much a mix, it could be the dogs, mother's mother's mother etc etc etc) then they will destroy the dog no questions asked. - DISGUISTING PRACTISE IN MY OPINION.

Secondly Akitas are not illegal and nor are they required to be muzzled. They are a strong breed with an instinct to protect, however if trained well then they are as cute and cuddly as the little jack russell that nearly took my finger off once.

I think it is disguisting that people are quite happy to suddenly say that is a dangerous breed of dog put it down immediately.
Do you know that there was a litter of puppies found a while back (I wish I could find a link) that were "thought" to be pit bull mixes because the mother looked a little pit bully so they were being taken to a vet to be put to sleep that evening. The puppies were 2 months old and hadn't hurt a soul - they'd barely lived and were being killed because they looked a certain way.

FGS its like Nazi's again.
Why is it that we feel its ok to kill a breed of dog but not to kill a breed of people?
A few pitbulls have hurt some people so lets kill them all. Well a few muslims blew up the WTC maybe we should bomb them all?
A few germans killed a load of jews - we should have blown germany up.

Yes, Yes - dogs dont have the sense that we do, no they just rely on us to look after then seeing as we domesticated them years ago and now look what we're doing as a punishment.
If were not killing them because of the breed, we're ruining the breed in the name of fashion.

I invoke Godwin's law

The fact is, too LS that the most common dog to bite people is a

LABRADOR.

Yes, the cute, fluffy, perfect-for-families labrador.

and a bite is JUST as dangerous as a maul-to-death situation if it's in the wrong place / untreated

There isn't a dangerous dog or a safe dog IMO - there are dangerous owners who refuse to treat and respect the dogs as dogs and would rather they think of them as human and capable of human thought

BAD -

Ok people I apologise, using Nazi's and muslims wasn't clever but was the best thing I could think of at the time (in my anger) so I do apologise but the points I was trying to make I do stick behind.

Oh and also in regards to the OP - NO your not being unreasonable at all to expect them not to tie the dog at the gate and leave it.
STUPID OWNER

BAD- too.
FWIW, pitbulls and their types are illegal now.

Where i live police will seize the dog and then kennel it whilst they get it checked out.
If it is thought to be a pit bull or pit bull type they will then neuter and tattoo the dog, give it back to the owners who then have to register, muzzle and insure the dog.

It maybe other ares do it differently.

And i think that people should keep the dogs well out of the way of the gates- as some of the posters said, some kids are scared of dogs.
if you dog is the cutest lovliest thing in the world, a child could still be scared of it and run around it into the road.

Maybe you can help the scardey kids acclimatise to nice dogs if yours is lovely, but only in a controlled arena.

And the OP is NBU, it's pretty poor judgement to have a big strong dog in the gates of a school.