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to expect my landlord to apologise?

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 11:56

He sent me a text at 4.42 to say that the payment i made yesterday had not gone in and that as from the 17th feb i had a prob, i.e he wanted me out then.

I called him back at 6.15 when i woke up and saw the txt. told him then that I had the counterpart to the paying in slip and i would send it across via email if he wanted, he said I am sorry in that case then,

So i take ds1 to school come back and there is an email from him telling me that no money in account and i need to call him immediatley, so i do get told i am on his back hassling him at work...errrr you asked me to call.
I have then had text messages telling me his patience has worn out etc. SO i scan said counterpart in and email it to him from 3 different email addressed all with the same email. Guess what I HAVE HAD NO MORE CALLS TXTS OR EMAILS!!1
Now i don't think I am worng in expecting him to apologise when he made accusations and basically called me a liar...

am going to vent some steam outside now grrrrrrrrrrr

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lalalonglegs · 27/01/2009 12:21

Sounds a bit charmless, yes, he should have apologised but it must have been quite stressful for him thinking you had defaulted. Just forget about it.

Fleurlechaunte · 27/01/2009 12:29

I think he should apologise. He completely jumped the gun. It is difficult enough living in someone elses house, I bet you were totally stressed out weren't you? He sounds like a knob and I would be worried what his attitude means for the future.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:30

Lala, but shouldn't he have contacted the bank PRIOR to making accusations? and even though he has just emailed myself he still has not apologised. T**T

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lulabellarama · 27/01/2009 12:30

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:31

Fluer, I have just had an email from him where he says he has heard from the bank that it was paid in and now shows on the account and although my counterpart shows yesterdays date he is suggesting it was paid in today hmmmmmmm or after 3.30 yesterday when in fact I paid it in at 9.40 as i was on the way back from taking ds1 to school.

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theresonlyme · 27/01/2009 12:33

Why not start looking for a new house?

lalalonglegs · 27/01/2009 12:33

As I said he's charmless, move on.

PlainOldPeachy · 27/01/2009 12:33

Um there's more to this

Does 17th feb for notice corespond to your contract? Doesn't most you know

He's either:

A.broke and panicking

B. broke and wanting to sell up

C. broke and needing to move back in so he can ditch where he is

D. a bit of a prat

Hope its storted, wouldn't bet on an extension though

Watoose · 27/01/2009 12:33

He is being an arse, do you think he wants an excuse to turf you out thoguh? watch out in case.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:34

Lula, thats the thing he is not backing off, basically HB screwed up before xmas anyway to cut it short he came to my flat on ssunday night and said he wanted the arrears paid directly to him in an envelope as it would help him out this way...ok and this was meant to start in 2 weeks....his email has said he wants it all by 17th feb now or us out. Errr why the sudden change of heart????

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:36

oh the arrears are not a massive amount either and i had agreed to payin him these already, I am meant to pay £220 monday H.B £50 on wednesday (out of income support) and then in 2 weeks a bit extra to start tackling the arrears which he wanted in an envelope so he could start furnishing his new place which by his own admission he cannot afford

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TheDevilWearsPrimark · 27/01/2009 12:42

If you are in arrears, be it HB offices fault or not you can't blame him for perhaps being stressed, hence his stroppy attitude towards you.

If his income from rent is just about covering his mortgage (which it is for lots of buy to letters) then he will be out of pocket at the moment and worried to make sure he will get t back.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:45

Thedevil,

This is not his only income, he owns other properties plus he owns a company. He was the one who stated he wanted the arrears put in an envelope and given to him so he could furnish his new home which he has had to buy due to leaving his partner. errr this is nothing to do with me....

He has also without warning changed the above agreement. TBH he is so worried about the rent but he is not so worried about the repairs that need doing.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:46

Also, surely he should not be texting me at 4.42am?????

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TheDevilWearsPrimark · 27/01/2009 12:47

Hmm I would try to move, you don't know what his situation is and you may find yourself forced out unexpecteddly. He sounds like a twat though.

PlainOldPeachy · 27/01/2009 12:47

OK

'He was the one who stated he wanted the arrears put in an envelope and given to him '

No so he can keep the money and not give you a receipt so he can evict you on basis of non payment (OK just a guess...)

New home? Not fallen through in climyate has it? COuldn't do with erm, a spare house?

(BTW if anyone yells have been a landlady as well as tenant so not biased, there are prats on both sides LOL)

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:48

lula, £300 arrears and when i said in sunday i would try to get a loan to pay him he said no just put the money in an envelope and give it to me as and when so i can furnish my new place

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FAQtothefuture · 27/01/2009 12:49

I can understand him stressing tbh, I'm (about to be) a tenant, but my vicar is a landlady as well and her (HB claiming) tenants owe her £3000 in rent!

FAQtothefuture · 27/01/2009 12:50

TLE - are you 100% certain it was 4.42am that he sent the text??

I have received some texts at odd hours of the day, but when I've checked the actual details they've often been sent hours (if not days in some cases lol) before.

Reallytired · 27/01/2009 12:52

You need to be sixty days in arrears before formal eviction proceeding can start and even then it requires a court to evict a tenant.

If you are having problems then I suggest that you contact the Citizen's advice or shelter bureau for advice. If you are having problems paying your rent then pay whatever you can. It will show the court that at least you are trying to make an effort.

A few years ago my husband who is a landlord had a complete nightmare tenant who smeared poo all over the walls and paid no rent. One of the tenants tried to murder the other leaving huge bloodstains in the kitchen. Also to make matters worst social services wanted to break in to rescue their poor three year old child from an abusive home.

A judge will be most reluctant to make a child homeless. Even in the farcial situation that the child is not living at the properly because social services consider the parents to unfit. Even with those tenants it took about six months to evict them from the property.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:56

right

4.42am (him)
please call immediatley. we (you) have a problem as of 17 feb. you have betrayed my trust and let me down.

I called him at 6.15 when i woke up.

7.17am
ta will check again definatly not in yet cheers

Me 7.17
thanks for txt i withdrew money at 9.15 and paid into your account via hsbc at C around 9.40. I have receipt from payment i made. if still not showing i will scan in and send you.

10.34

money is not in my account will check again at noon.

me 10.39
have you not seen scanned receipt i sent it at 10.32

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TheLadyEvenstar · 27/01/2009 12:59

We are not 60 days in arrears and as I said he knew we were looking for a loan to pay him and he said no, pay me in a few weeks cash in an envelope.

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trixymalixy · 27/01/2009 13:07

Sorry don't think he is being unreasonable if he checked his bank and the money wasn't there when he was expecting it, especially as you are in arrears already.

BoffinMum · 27/01/2009 13:08

All this envelope nonsense suggests to me he is trying to avoid tax. If so, you have him over a barrel. Pay as much as you can whenever you can, keep the house nice, and ignore his bullying. It would take him three months to evict you anyway.