Who remembers my post about my boss phoning me at anti-social hours?

[dilemma456]

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that it flipping crazy, you need to report that to someone, save the messages left with the times

Whoa, what's the history? That's just odd.

He's probably not sleeping well. My DH runs his own business and it is always stressful, worrying about getting money in for salaries, meeting deadlines etc. He wouldn't telephone staff but he does email them at all hours whilst he's working. He wouldn't expect them to reply outside work hours though.

Perhaps he just works overnight? He probably assumes your phone is off so he can just leave a message. But not sure why he would call you to leave three, hmm, does sound a bit weird.

Can you ask him nicely and directly NOT to call you at night please as it wakes you up? See what he says.

I'd report to HR not as a complaint but as a "I'm not sure if I'm being silly but do you think this is a bit odd?"

I was going to ask if it was his own business. It is really stressful and you do end up doing work at odd hours, but no way would I contact anyone by any means past the working day unless it was urgent.

Is it a recent thing? Is he reliant on you alot? Does he do it with other staff? The current climate is REALLY worrying for SME's. Can you broach the subject and say you find it very disconcerting and agree what is acceptable. I think he might well be having a few mental health issues (depression/ anxiety) and might not realise what he's doing. I think in these worrying times we have to be a bit more open minded.

I think he needs help to deal with stress . have you ever told him you do not appreciate him calling in the middle of the night? (I have not had the pleasure to read your previous thread.

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talk to HR

Oh OK, well I think he might be ill and you need to talk to him (if you can) and HR about it senstively.

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I remember your last thread and clearly things have not improved and you have to do something as things cannot carry on like this. It is ultimately harassment and must be very stressful for you. Yo must to and speak to HR again and encourage other colleagues in the same situation to do so to.

dilemma, Are you head of a bank????

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He sounds like a man on the verge of cracking up.... Is he worried about his job?

Is there a boss that he actually listens to? I would be more concerned about his mental state than anything else...

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He's either an insomniac workaholic and is sure your phone will be switched off so he can just leave a message for you when he happens to think of it without disturbing you or, and I am leaning towards this version, he is very worried about his job/the department and it's causing him rather a few stress related problems. It doesn't sound aimed specifically at you as he's doing this to your colleagues too. I'd be tempted to have a word with HR and say that you are worried about him.

A friend of mine worked with someone who she eventually realised was an alcoholic. When it started to get really bad she had a discreet word with HR who were very helpful, sorted him out rehab and supported him throughout the process. HR may be able to help him and it certainly sounds as though he needs it.

That does sound pretty odd, I send emails out of hours but not in the expectation of a reply and would never call. (Not that anyone would answer if I did anyway).

I'd have a word with HR to say you're worried about him.

Can you not 'borrow' his phone and delete your number.

Emails in the middle of the night are fair enough, I think. I mean, nobody gets woken by email, they're clearly not interrupting you, no issue. But calls in the middle of the night? Not acceptable.

Could he be drunk?

Think carefully about who in HR you contact. I think this will need someone fairly experienced and operating at the same level as your manager, or above. It will need someone who will be able to deal with this sensitively and tactfully.

Emails are fine at that time, but calls or texts are completely unacceptable.

It does sound like he has a problem.

It is the doen thing where I work to be texting/emailing people at ungodly hours but never phone calls.. I wouldn't expect any of my colleagues to call me after 11pm unless they knew I was online and working anyway.. in which case fine.

OP - YANBU.

Unless there is an emergency this is completely unacceptable and you need to tell him this in the nicest way possible (think egg shells). You should not have to turn your phone off at night, it's not practical for everyone to do so.

Ask him to put everything in an email (many emails if he needs to!!) and tell him that you will check your email first thing each day.

Is he the kind of guy who you could really talk to? Could you say to him that you are worried that he is up all night worrying about work? If you can't do this you need to speak to someone senior at work that you trust to handle this sensitively. In this climate we need to be just that bit more careful and supportive, there are a lot of people who are stressed to the point of breaking.

Countingto10 - been there done that and emails are fine - they don't wake anyone up