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Original poster

To think this teacher needs his head checked at the very least?

43 replies

AlecKid · 22/01/2009 20:53

I am a PA to the head of our secondary school. Recently, there was an incident involving a teacher who apparantly lost his marbles during a history class.

Yesterday the head was interviewing the kids who was in the class to find out what happened.

Boy a replied:

"Well we we were just doing our work and some kids were on the school field. Mr R saw them and ran to the window and banged on it and shouted at them to get lost"

Head replied:

"and did they leave?"

boy a:

"They did, but they came back"

Head:

"and then what happened?"

boy a:

"Mr R*** just went nuts, threw his book on the floor, jumped up on Bradleys table and then hopped across the other tables to the window and then started banging on it really hard and shouting at them. The kids were laughing there heads off"

Anyway, when he'd left the head more or less said she had no doubt that the kid was making it up. I hoped she was right.

Girl a then came in to be interviewed:

"Mr R* saw some kids on the school field and he went crazy and jumped along all the tables shouting and going mad"

Head:

"he was actually stood ON the tables?"

girl a:

"yes, and he was going 'agggh' like he was really, really mad and the kids were just laughing at him"

So she left and the head called in normally very sensible boy b:

"Some kids were on the field and Mr R just told them to get lost"

head:

"Thats all that happened? Mr R just asked them to leave?"

boy b:

"yes"

Head:

"And where did he say it from? his desk or did he walk over to the window or anything?"

boy b:

"Sort of, he jumped across the tables" ??!!

Head by this point was getting really stressed out knowing full well all the kids wouldn't lie like this...The last boy that came in said that he'd jumped across the tables, was foaming at the mouth and screaming like a banshee and then when he got to the window he yanked a load of his own hair out. This ott version was only mentioned once however.

Thing is, the head has decided to "leave it" basically but this is not the first time this teacher has lost his temper. Just before christmas he grabbed hold of one girl's bag and lobbed it down the coridoor at full strengh because she wouldn't leave his class.

AIBU in thinking SOMETHING should be done or even just looked into??

I'm not a troll before anyone says it, I've namechanged because my usual name more or less reveals my real name and I don't want to identify the school.

Thanks.

OP posts:
Original poster
AlecKid · 22/01/2009 20:54

Just want to add, I am NOT looking for him to be fired or suspended. I just don't think teachers should be behaving like this and it should at least be looked into.

OP posts:
Tortington · 22/01/2009 20:55

theremust be a whistleblowing policy

loobeylou · 22/01/2009 20:55

can't say anythin but

Original poster
AlecKid · 22/01/2009 20:55

And apologies for my bad English, in a bit of a rush and never proof read

OP posts:
SmallShips · 22/01/2009 20:57

I don't think that sort of behaviour is acceptable and yes if he has lost his temper like this before it definately needs to be looked in to.

duckyfuzz · 22/01/2009 21:00

appalling behaviour by teacher, but as head's pa I think you should be a bit more discreet

no5 · 22/01/2009 21:00

defo lost his marbles. need medical check up

Hulababy · 22/01/2009 21:00

His reaction in the room seems very odd and def not normal. Do you think he is suffereing from major stress or on the verge of a breakdown? What's his health like?

loobeylou · 22/01/2009 21:00

surely EVERYONE will know about this, the kids will ALL be talking about it, and you will have an angry army of parents demanding SOMETHING IS DONE

No school could hush this up and no head can risk being later discovered to have done nothing about it
(not sure that makes sense but you know what I mean)

roisin · 22/01/2009 21:01

AlecKid - I would be quite shocked if the PA of our HT were to discuss details and verbatim quotes of incidents like this on a public forum.

I work in a secondary school and would never discuss an incident in such detail, and I think it would be unprofessional to do so. Even if there was little chance of it being identified by anyone connected to it.

If you have concerns I think you should raise them privately with your boss, or if he won't listen and you feel very strongly then with the Chair of Governors.

Desiderata · 22/01/2009 21:02

Oooh, he should definately stay. Every school needs a complete loon

Original poster
AlecKid · 22/01/2009 21:05

I know, I have thought long and hard before posting this as I know I really shouldn't be talking about it but I'm so shocked she has decided to let it go.

All the kids are talking about it, they love retelling the story to people who were not there (but now the foaming at the mouth and hair pulling has become cemented into the story) and with the incident where he threw the bag, it turned into a story about how he'd grabbed the girl and thrown her down the coridoor.

I'm just not sure what I can do, the head doesn't want to discuss it anymore and it's not really my place to bring it up.

He often does look very stressed.

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onager · 22/01/2009 21:05

The teacher sounds like he is overstressed and in need of a break. I think it must be very frustrating these days to be a teacher so I'm not too shocked, but it's not a terribly good example.

I can't think of an excuse for the head who should at least be discussing it with the teacher, not ignoring it.

EffiePerine · 22/01/2009 21:06

not that loony, one of DH's teachers used to teach to an empty classroom

SlartyBartFast · 22/01/2009 21:10

we had a teacher who used to walk on the desks!

he was great fun.
left in a scandal as well.

nickschick · 22/01/2009 21:13

I think you should read your contract of employment is confidentiality a word you are familiar with?

SlartyBartFast · 22/01/2009 21:14

and you have even outed your own position at the school

PA

nickschick · 22/01/2009 21:15

and it's not really my place to bring it up.......dead right so why you putting it onto the internet to be read by ohhhhhh how many people???

OhYouBadBadKitten · 22/01/2009 21:16

Slarty - was it like this?

morningpaper · 22/01/2009 21:17

You ARE a bit made and likely to get fired

I thought the incident sounded a bit meh though - is this what constitutes awful teacher behaviour these days?

It was more fun in the old days when teachers were allowed to be PROPERLY mad, wasn't it?

morningpaper · 22/01/2009 21:18

ohyoubadkitten: woof woof

pamelat · 22/01/2009 21:22

He sounds like he needs a break. It is not normal behaviour.

I would not like someone with a temper (and who was displaying this) to teach my children.

Neither would I want him sacked. I feel quite sorry for the guy. He sounds like he has had enough.

I do think posting on here is dangerous (maybe ask for the thread to be removed?) as its likely to be found out.

IAteMakkaPakka · 22/01/2009 21:23

Blimey, if that's dad then maybe I was accidentally sent to a mental asylum instead of a secondary school

Heated · 22/01/2009 21:23

This is kindly meant, but I hope no one recognises the teacher from your OP, which is distinctive, otherwise it's you who could be getting in trouble. The Head's PA is privy to all sorts of confidential information regarding staff and students and this would breach it.

Can I suggest you have this thread pulled?

IAteMakkaPakka · 22/01/2009 21:24

bad, if that's bad

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