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to assume that if you work in the food industry your job is gonna be safe in this recession?

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ANamesANameForAThatsTaken · 19/01/2009 14:45

I mean, people have got to eat, credit crunch or no credit crunch. Someone tell my my dad and my dp are gonna be OK.

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bundle · 19/01/2009 15:28

ANamesANameForAThatsTaken

I make a point of buying locally-produced food (well - ish, I live in London which isn't known for its farms) and also food that is in season. instead of bleating about "handouts" that other people may/may not be getting, it might be better to do the same and buy British.

expatinscotland · 19/01/2009 15:32

'Just pointing out that other people in recessions suffer too. Anyway, loads of food is imported. '

Last I checked, British farmers were people. .

Some may even have spouses and family who work in other food industries.

Quite sure they'll be okay?

Well, I'm not. Nor is anyone who is clued up in the slightest about the British farming industry, the countryside or the supermarket industry in the UK.

ANamesANameForAThatsTaken · 19/01/2009 15:33

I do buy local produce, I live in an area that's very good for this sort of thing will lots of local farmers markets - I absolutely do support farmers. And yes, farmers are being screwed by the supermarkets.

All I said was farmers are not the only ones who suffer in a recession. But clearly, I'm wrong,!!!!!!! - according to you lot, farmers really are the only ones to suffer.!!!

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expatinscotland · 19/01/2009 15:33

Amen, bundle! We do, too.

ANamesANameForAThatsTaken · 19/01/2009 15:34

The only people who suffer in a recession are farmers.

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ANamesANameForAThatsTaken · 19/01/2009 15:34

happy now

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georgimama · 19/01/2009 15:35

You're talking about job security in the food production chain, and we're just pointing out that that starts with farmers. That's all.

Presumably if you are so anti "handouts" you won't accept any assistance from the state if your DP does lose his job? And you don't take your child benefit or claim tax credits on principal I'm sure.

TigerFeet · 19/01/2009 15:37

Er, no, I never said that farmers were the only ones to struggle. As I said above, I work in the wider food industry and my job is directly at risk. I was just correcting your assumption that farmers would be OK. They are in the same boat as the rest of us.

FromGirders · 19/01/2009 15:37

"We won't have to import food Georgimama, I'm quite sure the farmers will be OK "

You do realise that a huge quantity of our food is imported, don't you? Even the stuff we can quite easily produce ourselves?

expatinscotland · 19/01/2009 15:38

and once again, NO ONE is 'safe' as far as job security in recession.

redundancies happen.

people survive them quite regularly.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 19/01/2009 15:38

No they are not the only ones to suffer but it was your automatic assumption that they would be the first that has got people started.

Doodle2U · 19/01/2009 15:42

You are wrong to assume that if you work in the food industry, you are safe.

Cakes and gravy - no, not safe.

Ploughing fields to grow grain to make flour to make cakes - no, not safe.

Raising cattle, to add to ingedients for gravy - no not safe.

Margins are margins and if consumers cut back and/or supermarkets tighten their thubscrews on producers, then cutbacks have to be made and job losses expected.

It doesn't matter what the food is. If the numbers don't stack up, it ain't gonna be produced. Fact of life.

psychomum5 · 19/01/2009 15:44

no-one is safe in a recession, not people in the food industry, or even funeral homes!

on my local radio last week, (or maybe the week before.......recently anyway), there are local funeral homes who are having probs as people are not able to pay for funerals, and the benefit packages open to people on low income are taking more that 12wks coming thru!!

I know that is a complete 'off-topic' post from me, but I would like to say.......a recession effect everybody eventually. Not one person here is safe from it!

bundle · 19/01/2009 15:48

you did not just say farmers weren't the only ones to suffer - you said they'd be first in line for any hand-outs

in the recession I expect (hope) people will "re-learn" skills like cakemaking and gravy from scratch - it's so much better for you and cheaper

OHBollox · 19/01/2009 16:35

"Unfortunately when people are struggling financially one of the first things to go is unnecessary pre-prepared food."
It's sad that your job might be affected but in many ways people cutting down on prepared food might not be a bad thing at all.

chipmonkey · 19/01/2009 16:47

Lasr ecession we we had my 2 best friends who both had qualifications in food science spent a lot of time either unemployed or staying in jobs they hated.

TigerFeet · 19/01/2009 16:50

Personal circumstances aside I actually agree with you OHBollox

I work in the food industry because there is little else in this area, it pays the bills and the hours I work suit me - but I buy very little pre-prepared food. I happen to love cooking from scratch and I like to think I cook good food most of the time.

I agree with Bundle, people would do well to learn how to cook properly. I think more people do exactly that nowadays - hence the problems in the prepared food industry.

Having said that I really don't want to lose my job... I have very mixed feelings about the food industry really.

MadameCastafiore · 19/01/2009 16:52

No - lots of food places in East Anglia have gone out of business, is on the news a lot round here - Berbard Matthews (more cause they are shit) and others recently.

noonki · 19/01/2009 18:15

I work in homelessness think my job is safe

allyspice · 19/01/2009 18:36

On a more optimistic note, food does tend to do well in a recession - it's a more affordable treat than designer clothes, holidays, spa treatments etc.

And one good thing about the weak pound is that cheap imports of things like food are less likely.

But agree it depends on what the product is and how secure/ well run the company is in the first place. No guarantees.

ladyjuliafish · 19/01/2009 18:44

Fenland foods went bust last year

Findus went bust last week

So no, I wouldn't say jobs in food were safe, sorry.

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