- to think that 12.20am is a little late for ds1's (nearly) girlfriend to phone him!

[sunnygirl1412]

12.20am last night, to be exact! I was just drifting off to sleep (something I don't find very easy) when ds1's phone rang, and we could hear him having a happy conversation with the caller.

We called out, so he knew we'd been woken up (and were not entirely happy either) but he carried on talking. When dh went to enquire who was ringing him at that late hour, it turned out to be the girl he fancies, who he's asked out and who hasn't answered him yet.

When further questioned this morning, he remembers receiving the call, but has no recollection whatsoever of what either he or she said - though he's reasonably sure they're not engaged.

But am I being unreasonable to expect a 15-year-old to keep his social life to more sociable hours?

You didn't sound arsy - no need to apologise!!

Ds1 is now back home, having had his wrist manipulated under anaesthetic and put in a cast. His main gripe is that it is a boring white plaster of paris one, not a snazzy electric blue plastic one. I'm just glad he's ok!

And I like the suggestion of the phone under his pillow - it was the vibration of it on his bedside table that woke me up.

If it's his phone, then YABU about the phone call. It's his phone, if he's awake then really, why shouldn't he receive calls from any of his friends? He's 15, not 5.

However, YANBU to be annoyed at being woken. It's basic manners to be considerate of others, but age is totally irrelevant on this one IMO. Good that he had it on silent, unfortunate the vibrate made a noise. Suggest he simply moves it somewhere else and whispers next time he gets a late call.

Jesus, at that age I was sneaking out to all night parties, in a (committed, long term) sexual relationship, drinking in pubs and experimenting with illegal substances, as were most of my peers. Relax, it sounds to me like you've got off very lightly!!

Arhhh but remind him that now he can get the young lady to write on it!

I know it could be a whole lot worse, lowrib - I suspect I may have had a teeny-tiny sense of humour failure when it happened - which translated, means - I was bl**dy grumpy about being woken up.

And LBAM - he's off to school this morning, and I am waiting with trepidation to see what people write on his cast - lolol!

this is too late!

It is too late. Anyone making phone calls should be considerate of the time-whatever the age.

I'm not sure if I said, but apparently he spoke to her the next day, and she said sorry for calling then - apparently she'd rung us by accident (putting his number into her phone, or something).

Anyhow - I'm going to suggest that he puts his phone under his pillow, and talks quietly if anyone does phone him, so I don't have to turn into the warty-hairy-scary-grumpy-woken-mum monster!

sunnygirl1412 well, yes, sleep is sacred after all! (mum to 3 week old)

Ohhh lowrib - I remember having three-week olds, and having to look up 'sleep' in the dictionary! But there is still a part of me that would love to be doing it all again..... I love that tiny, nestling into mummy stage.[broody emoticon]

YANBU.