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Harangued by 2 women in Primark today. Horrid experience.

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tittybangbang · 05/01/2009 21:38

Had taken dc's out for last treat before school and nursery goes back tomorrow. After we binged on Paninis at Cafe Nero I bustled them into Primark to buy some socks and tights for school. Standing in the usual massive queue I was struggling to cope with basket, bags and my two boys (3 and 5), who were bored and who were lolling about. DD (9) went off to find some school trousers and I was trying to keep an eye on her, while conducting a slightly disjointed conversation with an old lady in the queue ahead of me who wanted to show me the tights she was buying for her granddaughter.

I suddenly realised that two women standing at the tills were looking at me and talking about me in loud voices, saying things about me. I looked back and said politely 'Sorry - excuse me?', at which point one of the women started having a go at me. She said my youngest had been lying on the floor and had kicked her, and that I shouldn't let my children be so inconsiderate of other people.

I said 'I'm very sorry - I didn't see him do it. I'm sure he didn't do it on purpose. I do apologise'. At that point, instead of graciously saying 'OK' and turning away, she just kept going, and her friend joined in, raising her voice and jabbing her finger at me. She was being really aggressive. She didn't seem to accept that I'd not seen him do it, and every protestation and apology from me seem to inflame the two of them further. Then the first one switched tack and started saying that I hadn't been watching them, and that I should 'keep my children under control'. The whole queue stood there watching and listening.

At this point I had a big lump in my throat and my two boys had gone really still and quiet. I bent down to my three year old and said 'This lady is really angry with mummy, and she's angry with you because you kicked her. Do you think you could say sorry to her?' which he did, looking her in the face. Reluctantly she acknowledged this apology with an 'OK', and then just turned her back on us and carried on a loud conversation with her friend about slack mothers who can't control their children and how bad it was........

I stood in the queue completely mortified for another five minutes until I could pay. Then I left the shop, steaming.

I've been stewing about it since getting home, and so wishing I'd said something to her about how aggressive her manner was... something like... "You know I felt really sorry that my tired three year old hurt you accidentally, and I wanted to apologise. I should have kept him closer to me. Sometimes as a mum you lose the plot a bit when you're under pressure. I wish I'd seen him do it because I would have said sorry without you needing to prompt me. But the thing is that you've dealt with it in such an inappropriately aggressive and judgmental manner that I'm actually starting to wish he'd kicked you harder. Why don't you learn how to communicate with people?'

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everlong · 05/01/2009 22:15

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piscesmoon · 05/01/2009 22:15

I think you dealt with it very well; you may not feel it, but it was actually better than being aggressive back-you left her with nothing to say because your behaviour was much better than theirs.

cyanarasamba · 05/01/2009 22:17

It wasn't Primark in Croydon by any chance? Always seems to be argy bargy in the queue there. Or maybe it's just a primark thing, seems to bring out the worst in people.

You have my sympathies, it sounds like you dealt as well as you could with a horrible situation.

piscesmoon · 05/01/2009 22:17

I agree about your DCs-having looked at your pictures I don't see how they could have been cross!

SimpleAsABC · 05/01/2009 22:19

were they workers or customers?

JodieO · 05/01/2009 22:19

I hate people like that. I find it so rude but I usually get annoyed and defensive, upset later though. I find it hard not to say something back to idiots like that but am also wary of stopping to their level.

JodieO · 05/01/2009 22:19

Stopping? Stooping doh

puppydetox · 05/01/2009 22:19

if it helps at all i'm sure every other person in the shop will have been thinking that they were a pair of old harpies and you were incredibly restrained iand polite. that your ds apologised too showed that he's a well brought up lad - you did exactly the right thing and did yourself proud imo.

Moondancer · 05/01/2009 22:20

Customers surely - dosent seem to refer to staff at all.

WinkyWinkola · 05/01/2009 22:20

OMG. Your DCs are beautiful!

treedelivery · 05/01/2009 22:23

They were jelous of your frankly beautiful gene-gifted children. Ha! They are soooo lovely.

BalthazarCandleQueen · 05/01/2009 22:26

You behaved impeccably and said/did just the right thing.
OTOH, I would have kicked the f***g woman myself if she'd spoken to me or my children like that.
But then I don't often have the moral high ground...

JodieO · 05/01/2009 22:28

Just checked your profile and omg your children are gorgeous!! I could do nothing but smile at them had I been those women, miserable pair they sound like.

Jux · 05/01/2009 22:31

Sympathies. But I bet everyone else thought badly of them, and well of you, particularly as your little boy behaved so well once you knew what was going on.

ComeWhineWithMe · 05/01/2009 22:32

This has made me really sad for you ,what a pair of vile bitches .

You were right to rise above it and set a very good example to your children and everyone else was probbaly thinking that these women were probably a pair of old harpies looking for an srgument.

Your dc are beautiful by the way and you have a Gaby just like me excellent name choice .

Kbear · 05/01/2009 22:34

Don't give her another thought. You can't fathom unreasonable people like that so don't try.

KerryMumbles · 05/01/2009 22:39

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LucyEllensmummy · 05/01/2009 22:40

Yes, your comback was great - its always the weay though isnt it, i can always compose a shed load of cutting comments post the event - couple of witches, i bet they never have sex!

MillyR · 05/01/2009 22:41

MilaMae, I am not surprised you cried! That is absolutely awful. I don't think there is any way you could have responded to that woman; you probably did the best thing in front of your child by not getting involved with someone being so horrible.

Kbear · 05/01/2009 22:43

Someone had a go at me at the station once, there were two ticket machines, one cards one cash only. I asked the whole queue if they wanted to the card machine and everyone said no except one bloke who accused me of pushing in.

So I said

"I'm sorry, I did ask the queue and thought no one wanted this machine, after you..."

BUT he went on and on and on until I said (in big loud voice)

"I didn't mean to push in, I did ask eveyone, I'm SORRY didn't hear me, I've let you go in front of me WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? We can stand here and have a row about it but I'm sure you have a train to catch so do you want to just get your ticket and go so I can get mine - FOR GOD'S SAKE".

Some people just like a row.

Heated · 05/01/2009 22:48

In no more than 20 words: She was such a witch because...

.. she had the biggest pulsating hemorrhoid known to man

Hope the thought cheers you

leeloo1 · 05/01/2009 23:35

You do indeed have gorgeous children (had to go and check after everyone said how beautiful they were), but do you think its a good idea to have naked pics where any scary person could see them? Sorry if you've already considered it - and definitely not wanting to upset you more - but my DH was v cross that I'd emailed pics of my LOs 1st massage to relatives and he pointed out that they could be forwarded or posted anywhere, which I hadn't considered, but am now uber-conscious of...

Re the scary shouty women - they're absolute cows and well done to your LO for apologising!

chipmonkey · 05/01/2009 23:39

I remember an incident like this where an older hag lady called ds1 a "brat" ( he was 3) for accidentally whacking our car door into hers. I actually lost sleep about it. And like you, thought of loads of clever things to say two hours later!
Don't give them another thought, they must be very unhappy women.

tittybangbang · 05/01/2009 23:47

OMG Cyanara - it was Croydon!

Thanks for the nice comments everyone - especially about my dc's. I'm so proud of them I could burst.

BTW - it wasn't staff, it was customers. The staff in there are actually quite saintly, suprisingly (given all the shite they probably have to put up with).

Actually I was thinking this evening it was kind of karma for when I was in Cafe Nero the week before. I hadn't stood up for the Polish girl behind the counter when a member of the public came up and was really rude and mean to her when she was struggling to serve about 10 people on her own. I shot her a sympathetic smile and had a loud conversation with the retired couple behind me about how good the staff in there are and how unfair it was that she was left on her own when it was so busy... but didn't say anything to snotty arsehole giving her the gip because his latte wasn't up to scratch..... went home feeling a bit ashamed of being a coward.

New year's resolution: to be more like my 74 year old mum who'll always wade in and stick up for someone who's being picked on.

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Monkeytrousers · 05/01/2009 23:51

You handled yourself beautifully! If I'd been there I'd have come to your defence, but you did the right thing. Agressive people can't be argued with. They just show themselves up as arseholes and take the silence as silent agreement. Actually everyone is thinking, 'what a nutter!'