to think that dd's plagroup shouldn't fake her 'signature' on her artwork?

[Umlellala]

Honestly, I don't know what to think. It's either hideously embarrassing and naff that they think it's cute to write 'love from Umlella's dd' with left-handed kid writing... or they are trying to make me think she actually did write it? Surely not?

I mean, she can write an A and do a funny-looking p but she most definitely cannot write her name (as I would expect most 2 yo can't). And as her mother, I am sorta aware of her abilities

And then there are the identikit artworks she brings home - perfect faces, and well placed snowmen buttons etc - from 2 year olds! I mean, she might have done them herself (she does loads of artsy crafty things at home) but it would just be nice to have some artwork that I could be confident that was hers (rather than just sticking where they put the glue iykwim).

And yet, in the grand scheme of things, I don't really care too much. She is there to have fun, which she does, and they give her cuddles when she is sad, so all good.

So should I say something? Or not? And if so, what?

maybe it was a teacher with bad handwriting rather than trying to fake a childs writing? It does bug me when they try and make toddlers paint/glue/colour very neatly.

I was always amazed the the 'perfect' daffodils etc my 2 yr old used to produce!
I was happy overall so I just went with the flow-it never seemed worth getting worked up about.

I really think that as long as there is some scope for "genuine creativity" (ie making a dreadful mess) I wouldn't worry too much about the manicured artworks.

But if there is really no scope for genuinely independent, messy play, I would worry a bit, yes. Not least because one of the great benefits of them doing that kind of thing at playgroup is that you don't have to then do it at home and deal with the messy consequences.

Nope the 'love from' was in normal writing, and the name was in fake-kid's-writing. I asked dd if she wrote it, 'i didn't'

Piscesmoon, you are right. I think I just needed to vent it just seemed so odd. SixSpot, that is my 'concern' though tbh she does plenty of messy, creative stuff at home.

Does it continue through school? At what point do they actually get to do stuff for themselves?

(hang on, what am I talking about? Even secondary kids coursework is all done for them now...

That would annoy me as well..
My dds playgroup 'dot' her name out to encourage her to trace and connect the dots and 'write' her name - that way its always readable - her art and paintings are definitely done by her!!

She's happy, she has fun, the staff sound nice.

I would count my blessings and be grateful that it was the only negative thing about the nursery.

Don't say anything, because it might, just might, be the actual handwriting of one of the nursery staff and that would just be too awful to contemplate.

They do (IME anyway, and all mine are at school now) get to do independent stuff quite early on - certainly at school nursery stage (still supervised of course).

When my ds' were at playgroup they were encouraged to write whatever they could of their name. Even if this was just a line thats what you got and the staff would write their name discreetly in the corner.

And their artwork was definitely all their own work

Yes tell them

In fact take her out and find a better one, how very dare they forge her signature, the bastards

Ok, ok, so I am being unreasonable . That is why I posted. Just seemed odd rather than offensive tbh.

But she says she has fun, so it doesn't matter really. Just have a PFB image of her sat in a corner while the stuff laugh and throw glitter around, NO, dd, you carry on peeling potatoes. Actually, she'd probably find that fun.

Will chill.

staff not stuff

You burst my bubble

I always thought ds1 was a genius because he could write his own name in the cards he brings home from nursery

I don't think you're being unreasonable actually. I had this argument with someone only the other way around. At dd's nursery she brings home shedloads of 'artwork' - mainly just bits of paper with the odd scribble and scissor cutting round the edges. Pretty standard for a 2 year old I'd say.

However a friend of mine has recently started her dd at the same nursery and was complaining to me "They never seem to make anything"? She said she had been looking through the toybox at home and had found a model monkey that her older dd had made at the same age at a different nursery. She obviously felt hard done by that dd2 wasn;t producing work of an equally hig standard - at 2 and a half!

Now unless the older girl was some kind of prodigy I'm willing to bet the oh so lovely model monkey was actually made for the most part by one of the nursery staff. Not sure why I would need the papercraft abilities of the ursery teachers demonstrated to me

art at dd's playschool seems to involve her teacher making 20 of whatever the art is and writing e differant childs name on each... sometimes there's a bit that was coloured in by the child themselves

i had to laugh when i got her end of year scrapbook last year and except for a few paintings and the more scriblled on colouring pages it was fairly obvious none of it had been done by her perfectly coloured in pages from a 3 year old...... not likely!

i can usually tell what was done by her and what wasn't, the disasters she creates herslef go in pride of place and the artwork her teacher slaved over get given to her to play with as it usually only last a day or 2 that way before it's just shreds of paper and can be binned

Did they hold her hand while she 'wrote' it? I used to do that sometimes when DD1 was small so it would end up looking scruffy if she'd pulled in the opposite direction too enthusiastically!

yabvu
dd has cp and if people didn't help her she would never write.
what an odd thing to care about

Interesting. Trying to work out why it bothers me now. Think it might be me feeling odd because while she is at playgroup I don't know what she does there - so bizarrely, I worry about her being in the big wide world all alone when clearly she is very well-attended to. There are only 6 kids there, the staff probably help over-enthusiastically because there ain't nothing else to do .

2shoes, I don't have a prob with her being helped with things she can't do, just think perhaps she isn't given the opportunity to try herself. Am sure there are things your dd is able to do all by herself, but people might do for her. Wouldn't she, and you, prefer she did them herself?

Oh, um ... that's going a bit far. People with nonSN kids don't have to sign a pledge never to about anything ever because they are luckier than us ...

OP knows she's bu + has said it's odd but not offensive and I see her point anyway.

I think enough's been said.

xp!

She is two years old FFS (sorry I hardly ever swear but really...). She has plenty of time to "try things out" and learn.

FFS.

I can't belive they actually faked her signature! I bet they said 'umlella do you want to write yur name?' and then she held the pen while they wrote the name (which makes it go wobbly. I know cos DS likes to do this!)

Ok, ok, I get it. This playgroup/childcare thing is new to me. A lot to learn, clearly.

prettybutterfly what an odd post. of course they don't, I was just trying to point out that in the nig sceme of things it is hardly an "issue"