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To not want to not speak to my coke addicted SIL?

36 replies

mulranno · 12/12/2008 13:20

I dont want to alienate my brother, but his wife is unbearable. She has caused so much offense but he sticks by her. Recently we nursed my mother thru rapid aggressive ovarian cancer. She didnt visit but sent a nasty note to her death bed. At the burial she had a fit as I didnt comfort her as I was cradling my sobbing 19 year old brother. we now have to share the first Christmas together. I want to explain to my brother and her that I have no capacity for friendship for her during this time. I do not want a row but want her to respect my personal space. I will endure Christmas lunch in her presence but I do not want her to kiss me (I find it distressing) or speak to me. Is this an unreasonable request. I am worried that if i say something my brother will not come. My other sisters would not forgive me if this happened. Maybe i should not go?

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ravenAK · 13/12/2008 22:11

Yes, give it a miss - tell everyone you're having a quiet Xmas with dh & dc.

Discreet phonecalls to your sisters to explain/arrange to get together with them another time?

If you can't bear her, she's on coke/bonkers & you're grieving such a close & recent loss, it's probably best that you avoid each other's company - most unlikely you'll be able to avoid a huge row, & that's the last thing your db needs.

OrmIrian · 13/12/2008 22:12

No you don't have to accept what she did. At some point maybe you can deal with that, with her behaviour. But not now. It's too raw. Let it lie for now, have your quiet family christmas. And then give yourself time to heal. She isn't important. You and your family are.

critterjitter · 13/12/2008 22:16

I'm not sure that people are saying that her behaviour should be tolerated (though I can't speak for others). Rather, that at this time of year, and with children involved, their (your children's) interests are best served by staying away from the situation. And a polite excuse (sick children) will go down better with the rest of the family, than either raising the issue with her at Christmas, or stating that you will not be visiting because of her presence there.

Perhaps the New Year would be a better time to address this with your brother? From the sound of it, you're not going to achieve any kind of resolution with her at any time - it sounds like your brother may be the key to healing things.

Is there any chance of you getting away and getting a holiday? It really sounds like you are (understandably) at a very low ebb.

nkf · 13/12/2008 22:18

It sounds absolutely terrible but I don't tink anyone is suggesting that you have to tolerate it. You can avoid it by not going. If you don't have the energy for a scene, then stay away from her. I don't think it's unreasonable to want her to leave you alone. I just think it's unlikely that it will happen. And you need to take care of yourself.

Carmenere · 13/12/2008 22:21

I'm sorry I haven't read the other posts but I wouldn't go. Why should you have a crap time on an already very very difficult day just to maintain the facade of happy families. Take care of you and yours and maybe by next christmas you might be all able to get on. for this year I wouldn't put yourself under the stress, you deserve a break.

elliephant · 13/12/2008 22:23

Please don't take this as criticism because your post really rings a bell with me but it seems to me all your negativity - anger, sorrow,the wrenching awfulness of watching someone you love die -about your mother's death is now tied into your feelings about your sil. Now, she sounds like a total nightmare and I would recommend you cut her out of your life totally. Ignore her, if you don't care about her, her behaviour can no longer hurt you. And if that means reducing contact with your brother so be it. However I don't think you should miss out on this family Christmas. Focus on the family you care about, your siblings who like you are mourning a lost mother and looking for comfort. See this Christmas as an opportunity to remember your dear mother, share good stories and happy memories that are often lost in the mists of mourning. Like you, I nursed my DM through her last illness and it took a long while to come to terms with the the pain of her loss and whole thing of watching her go . And also had to deal with a toxic SIL who didn't even have drugs as an excuse for her behaviour. But I no longer make the effort with her - we are civil when we meet but she no longer has the power to hurt me because I do not value her opinion and care about what he does. Sorry for long post hope it makes sense after too much wine!

onebatmotherofgoditschilly · 13/12/2008 22:37

Oh mulranno, I'm so sorry that you're in so much pain. My mother died of ovarian cancer 6 years ago; it is a terrible, terrible disease, and your post of 22.05 has brought me to tears.

After my mother's death, there was an appalling row in my family relating to the speed with which my father became involved with someone else; it was complex (I can't be more specific on here) and involved several members of the family taking different sides.

I know for an absolute fact that I did not behave in a way that does me any credit, and I deeply regret it (it was more a sin of omission than commission, but nevertheless, I wish I had acted differetnly.) The fallout is still being felt - and relationships have not entirely recovered, though I believe they will in time. I feel, in truth, that I let the memory of my mother down in some undefined but important way.

I think that what most people are trying to say is certainly not that you have to take it on the chin and allow this woman to behave as abominably as she wishes, but rather that she is almost certainly not going to respect any request to back off and will probably force a confrontation - one which, given her previous form, could escalate to no-going-back levels. It's possible that you might behave badly, and she most certainly will.

What do the rest of your family think of her? Have you discussed her with your brother, ever?

I'm very, very sorry for your loss, and I do hope that you manage to scrape some small pleasure from this Christmas. I hope that your children bring you comfort - it is very hard being a grieving child, and a mother at the same time.

Jux · 13/12/2008 22:38

Enlist your sisters' help. Have a chat and tell them how this woman affects you. Perhaps they can keep an eye, and lurk if they see you both close together, and then they could jump in when it looks to be getting dangerous? I know my brothers would do this for me.

Jux · 13/12/2008 22:43

Sorry about your mother

mulranno · 13/12/2008 23:00

My sisters detest her also - one sister even more than I do...but they can somehow tolerate a civil hello and goodbye. We all avoid her we are a big family 7 siblings so often family events are buffet style milling around easy to move away. But I am worried that they have not thought thru the reality of Christmas -- just us all sat round a table sharing a house...
Good idea let my sisters know that I am vunerable -- maybe a code word to rescue me if I am getting really stressed. But I am trying to guage what I will gain from going as opposed the stress I will endure. I think my sisters will be disappointed if I dont go but they will still have each other for comfort. If I dont go I will miss out on comfort from them but also will not be stressed. We all live close in England and we see each other lots. We meet specifically every Sunday eve just the sibs to talk about Mum and our grief.

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onebatmotherofgoditschilly · 14/12/2008 09:27

I think you need to talk to your sisters asap. If you explain how much you are dreading it, and that you don't feel that you will be able to say nothing to sil, they may be very understanding.

Best of luck mulranno.

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