to hate how reverse snobbery seems acceptable to many on this board and RL?

[mayorquimby]

maybe i'm just having a bad day/week/month/year but for some reason i seem to be seeing more and more of it on here and in RL i've noticed people seem to think it's completely acceptable.i think it was another thread somewhere that set me off but i don't want to quote it as it's seem like i'm having a go at one person when in reality you see it everywhere.
this isn't a troll or a wind up, it's a genuine question, with the amount of threads on here at the moment about how the economy has gone to shit and the politicians have been useless (which i largely agree with) it seems to be acceptable to have a go at them because of their background. how many times do you see "public schoolboy" used as a negative comment? and bcause of my accent/where i grew up people i barely know in RL seem to think it perfectly acceptable to comment on my poshness/background as a seemingly legitimate basis to invalidate my arguments/opinions?

this isn't a class warfare saying that you can't knock posh people who are twats, just knock them for being twats rather than their background. i know the amount of abuse i'd get if i used the term "working class" about someone as a negative connotation on here and rightly so, because it's ignorant and lazy/. so why is it acceptable in reverse?

rant over

David Cameron has a personal fortune of £30 m???? Utter tosh. His parents and parents in law are wealthy but that's not the same as a "personal fortune" is it, its their money not his.

IMO Karen Matthews is NOT working class anyway. She's never worked a day in her life and never had any intention of doing so.

chocolatdot he was born into a very rich family, as was Samantha Cameron - neither have every known anything like poverty or how most people live. Whether they are worth 3 million or 30 million is largely irrelevant TBH - the point is the same.

"Mayorquimby- you have been very opinionated on certain threads have you not?"

have i?if i have it's because i generally only post on topics where what i feel like saying has not already been said, so it will normally be where i have an oppossing view and feel i have something to add to the debate (normally nothing coherrent). i don't much see the point of posting another "yanbu/yabu" if the last 6 posts have said exactly the same. so that would probably ear mark me as one bristling for an argument and again i only do this in the aibu sdection as this is the place for debate and a bit more prickly than the other places. where as a section like relationship advice is not exactly the place to stick the boot in is it?

Mmmm it was definately relationship advice you were dishing out Mayorquimby

I agree with MP and plantsittter.

Prejudicial unpleasantness about anyone is lazy, unhelpful and wins no credible arguments. But when people who have little power are subject to it it tends to make their situation worse. Whereas those with more power, flexibility or ability to be self serving are far more immune, and protected from the opinions of others. So the currency is not the same. For the same reason racial stereotyping or prejudice isn't ok about anyone, by anyone. But it is more harmful against some people than others.

For that reason, I am not very moved by the plight of pilloried middle-class people.

And sometimes it is helpful to have a good look at the mc stereotype and check that one (natch) isn't living up to it.

I speak as a (non wealthy) middle class person.

I find it particularly refreshing to get a male view in relationship advice.

DC's father is a successful stockbroker, that's it. Interestingly that DM article makes no reference to the current state of the Sheffield family fortune (Samantha's father), no doubt because there isn't one. Her step-father is an Astor but that doesn't have any implications for her presumably as he has a family with his first wife.

Personally I think it does make a difference if it's £3m or £30m (although pretty sure DC isn't even the former given he never earned a huge amount at Carlton Communications).

"For example, David Cameron has a personal fortune of £30 million. Does he REALLY understand much about living on benefits/poverty? "

and that's a fair point. but on this logic you could equally then say that the majority of people who vote in elections etc don't understand much about global economics (i know neither do the politicians/bankers if the current situation is anything to go by), wether or not the euro would be good for britain or who would be the most qualified person to run the country. but that doesn't exclude them from having an opinion and very definite involvment in the decision process through a democratic vote.

"Mmmm it was definately relationship advice you were dishing out Mayorquimby"

[bluch] can we put it down to me having a bad day?

oh is mayorquimby a man? I'd never have guessed.

• really bad day.i mean what the hell is bluch?

Mayor - yup. And I feel people such as DC are in a no-win situation really. Wheras people who want to learn more about the economy can do so, what do we expect DC types to do, exactly, if they want to find out about living in poverty?

So those who are wealthy don't understand about poverty/living on benefits? What would you suggest? Have people who have no idea about budgeting or fiscal policy running the country instead?

I don't really give two shits how much money other people have got rich or poor.

Samantha Cameron's family home - not exactly the sort of place you will find a drugged child under a divan (probably, I dunno TBH)

Samantha Cameron's Daddy

"David Cameron's parents were celebrating a large windfall yesterday after a pair of paintings that hung on the walls of the Conservative leader's childhood home were sold for more than £1 million. The two pictures by the 18th-century French artist Jean-Baptiste Greuze became the most expensive paintings auctioned in a British provincial saleroom when they fetched £1,050,000." This sort of thing doesn't happen to MOST parents, does it?

that's easy MrsSB. What they do is they go on a reality tv show where they live with "the poor" for week and learn how to feed a family of 12 on 26p.
And then give a summary at the end spouting on about how these are the "real people" that he is fighting for.....

So those who are wealthy don't understand about poverty/living on benefits? What would you suggest?

vote labour of course

Ultimately, snobbery isn't about money, it's about class, about aspirations (god, aspirational... how vulgar). If, like many middle class people you worship at the great god of education for our children, it's difficult to get people who're overly bothered about possessions, about appearances. They on the other hand, look down on us for our shabby house, our clothes which are cast offs. I'm a snob (and wish I wasn't), but I really don't care about people's income

"This sort of thing doesn't happen to MOST parents, does it?"

No, but then again, most parents don't give birth to the future leader of a major political party either. (however much we might all think we have when still in pfb stage )

And I feel people such as DC are in a no-win situation really

lol Yes he has it TOUGH

The point is, he is from an elite that has POWER and WEALTH and because of that will most likely be elected prime minister - surrounded by all his fellow classmates

It is good and proper that people are allowed to this

No MP (re the windfall) but I bet a lot of wish it did

True Jeee, but I'd rather be shabbily well educated anyday.

Vote Labour?? What about Tony Blair, eduacted at the Scottish Eton and surrounded by a coterie of mates from Oxford and his Barrister's chambers.

nah he's gone dude