Is this a normal level of tiredness bearing in mind

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That we have 2 under 2 with the youngest being 4 months. He pops up for a feed 2-3 times between 10pm and 5:30pm and also pops up at least once inbetween each feed so he wakes me up but sometimes settles himself and sometimes I have to reassure him etc.

I am usually up for the day any time from 5:30-6:30am and I got to bed at 10pm and also try to catch a snooze at lunch time if the kids co-ordinate their naps!

I spend my evenings just doing my own thing on the computer usually - MN, shopping for clothes for the kids / christmas / food online and not really engaging that much as I LOVE the down time.

DH makes the odd comment about me being more tired than he would expect. What do you think?

You have discribed my evening....unless CSI or something like that is on. and I don't have a 4 month old.

Very normal imo.

He clearly needs to do more, then he would know that you are as tired as anyone would be with 2 under 2!

Sounds about right, I was in same situation and was exhausted. So much that I spend £60 on a new espresso maker so I could cope.

Sorry described

I have one nearly 2yr old that often wakes in the night (usually just for a dummy) and your evenings sound the same as mine... I'd be a zombie if I had two to look after!!!

Sounds completely normal to just veg out when you're being woken every night and up at crack of dawn...

Which part of your life does your DH think isn't exhausting?

Describes my evening 3 dc 6 , 3 and 10 mth who wake 3 times a night minimum!
What did he 'expect' ?

You should the exact same as me, I have a 4 and a 3yo and a 4 month old on a good night I'm up 3 times on a bad night 8 times!

My DP will say but your always tired and I am.

Who wouldn't be tired with your sleep pattern?

I am absolutely shattered and only have one 6mth old who usually sleeps. I spend all evening on mn barely talking. Get DH to spend a day with both of them, while you stay in bed, just taking baby for feeds. Bet he will be on his knees

It might be worth speaking to your GP - I exhausted after having DD1 which I assumed was normal but eventually I went to my GP and was diagnosed with a severely underactive thyroid. It can be caused by pregnancy, it affects 1 in 50 women in the UK and amazingly it's not routinely checked.

Last night I went to bed at 10. Baby woke me at 10:45, 2 and 4:15 for a feed. Then woke at 5:30am and was 'up'. After 20 mins of him singing, DH kindly got him up and then DD woke up at 6:15am. DH came and got her but was speaking in a normal voice to her as he walked through our room and back to get her which woke me out of my dozy about to drop off state (he knows about this but refuses to be 'quiet' for anyone other than our PFB). Baby then appeared at 7:30am howling because he needed to go back to bed. I must have dropped off but it didn't feel like it - more like dozing.

So - DH offered me a lie in but scuppered it by chatting and with one thing or another, I feel as if I had 3 hours + 2 hours and that was essentially it. My eyes feel all sandpapery today and now the lunch time sleeps are out of sync so no chance of another sneaky snooze. DH has somehow made me feel like I've had all the sleep (which I have I guess but he went to bed horribly late watching films - something i'd dearly love to do but daren't because of what the night might hold in terms of the number of times I'm up and down with baby) and that I should be full of the joys of spring. I think I'm just not getting enough deep sleep.

It is also worth asking your GP to take a blood sample to see if you are anaemic.

Thankyou, my ds 2.3 years still wakes up to 6x a night. We co-sleep so I hardly ever get out of bed but I would have to put moisturiser on his body (he has bad eczema and wakes up scratching), give piriton/water, cuddle or nurse him to sleep. He can be up for an hour at a time. My dd was very much the same.

I found that if I slept like this, I hardly ever went into deep sleep so that if ds woke me within an hour of settling, I did not feel that tired either at night or during the day.

However, I found that once dd started sleeping through, if she only woke just once in the night, I would feel more tired in the morning than if I woke continuously all night long. My SIL said the same thing. I think it is because rousing suddenly from deep sleep takes quite a lot out of you.

Anyway, I appreciate I could only speaking for myself. But for me, wading in the shallows all night long is fine.

However, you spend your days with very young children. I go to work which gives me a chance to recharge. I would be a zombie if I had my 2 around me all day.

You have described me and i have a 4 and 3yo, i am always shattered having said that my 3yo as never slept through yet and i'm just has tired now as i was when he was born