to not want to see graphic pictures of Baby P when I log on to Facebook?

[TinkerBellesMum]

I've deliberately tried to avoid the subject, I've not read links, avoided discussions etc, I've stopped watching the news because there's so much happening to the children at the moment. Not because I'm heartless but because I've lost a baby and my heart breaks for these babies who died needlessly at the hands of someone else.

I set my FB status saying I'm fed up of hearing about it and someone just sent me a message saying:

i have just been told about the statment u have wrote on your status. i am sickened. heartless is the first word that comes to mind

I'm not heartless, I just have too much heart! Why do I have to have it shoved in my face?

There are only 2 groups for baby p - other results are random ones.

I agree there should be 1 thread for the discussion of the case but you cannot have everything on the thread.

It's sad your friend said that though, anyone with half a brain should realise people 'avoiding' this aren't doing it because they don't care, as you said it's usually because they acre too much.

I does seem alot of people are jumping on the grief bandwagon, but, I guess it coms from a good place in their hearts. I guess they don't want to see him forgotten but then again he seems public property now. Not sure there would ever be a happy medium. SOrry for waffling.

The groups I found by searching FB aren't one or two, I found page after page. I think I found one random group.

I don't get this not wanting it (any, not just one case) forgotten thing or as I've been told today "being a voice" for someone who didn't have on in life because there are lots of babies out there in similar positions, not as many as those who slam social services would have us believe but more than we see. The living children need a voice and there is a lot we can do to help them if people were genuinely trying to do something they'd do something for the living children to help prevent it happening again. Not sit behind a monitor and knock the people who actually work really hard!

I totally understand TBM as have to turn the radio off everytime I hear about it as it upsets me so much. I can't even watch the NSPCC ads or read the RSPCA leaflets either! It's terrible that there are such awful happenings in the world.

I am that this person upset you and misinterpretted where you were coming from.

Chin up sweetie x

I agree. I've had goodness knows how many invites to groups about baby p 'demanding' 'answers'.
And have previously had the same things lulumama says about jamie bulger etc.
I no longer have a 'wall' so I can't receive these posts and I immediately ignore all group requests unless someone specifically talks to me about them.
TBH, I don't think the people who do it are aware of how it sometimes comes across and if it makes them feel better then I try to keep my gob shut but I sadly doubt very much a facebook group can achieve much, if anything.

Erm, I did a thread a while ago about not wanting to see graphic pics on the front of newspapers for my kids to see.

I would actually advise people to steer clear of the BabyP thread because of some of the content of that thread.

I wanted a virtual hug and just to say how crap I was feeling. I didn't want to discuss the case or get involved in any of the horribleness that is happening in that thread.

This thread is just like mine and the OP deserves a hug as I did.

Telling people to go onto that other thread is not helpful.

yanbu
I cannot understand why people want to amke it all about them in this way.

spotty, I'm getting to that point, I'm getting angry with the NSPCC ads now, they're really ramming home a point. I don't know how Mum manages to go into work, I couldn't do her job! After we lost Lily-Hope she had to take time off because she couldn't face the parents she works with.

VictorianSqualor I've had ones to groups about how terrible social services are, I declined it and nearly wrote my status about it. If social services really were that bad there would be a lot more children dying. My favourite ones are when they say that Thompson and Venebles should still be in prison (um... they never were!) I think apart from the public weeping and wailing it's the badly informed rubbish they spread that works me up too.

Thank you Rhubarb. I know hugs are supposed to be un-MN but I think there is always a time and place for them, which is probably why they are un-MN because every post isn't the time and place.

The person who sent me the message was from a group I'm on where most of us have lost a baby in the second half of pregnancy - she included! So you'd think she would have been a little more understanding.

Yeah, I've had the social services ones too, and a friend has uploaded a pic of baby p to her pictures....why?????

Aww TBM, Hope you are feeling better.

I must say I find it easier to talk about than to steer clear of it, dont know why am not random sicko or whatever(not that anyone said that just making a point), part of it is because I want to train to be a SW so I suppose in a way I could learn a lot from the circumstances around it, not saying its a good thing or anything just mean that in respect of how SS treated the whole thing.

Totally understand where you are coming from though and YANBU for being annoyed about that message! Very insensitive(sp?)

Hate all these groups etc all they are doing is inciting violence and are going to cause havvoc when it comes to other charges. People seem to think it makes it okay to add these pics etc to make them look good but fact is they never knew him and how would they like it if someone random had pics of their DC's, I know I wouldnt be amused anyway!

Yeah, the pictures on profiles get me and the "Put this as your profile pic if you want justice for Baby P" thing, erm... emotional blackmail anyone?

There is one group who's name is the full name and address of the parents if that's not incitement I don't know what is!

I can see where you're coming from mamadiva, but the stuff that's around at the moment probably won't be very useful, it's a lot of sensationalism and will miss a lot of facts that either aren't known or not useful for selling papers. There will be a report written which will be a lot more factual and useful. It will take you the whole two years to read that and the Climbie report but you will need to do an assignment on it in your first month

I asked Mum last night how many children she's had in the last 12 years she did a :-S face (we need that as an emoticon!)) So I asked how many have died, she's had one directly - against her and everyone else's wishes the court allowed a 3 month old to go home (Mum worked in a residential assessment home at the time) the family can afford the best barrister because of legal aid, the council can't! 3 days later the baby was dead. She's picked up a case where a child had died, not one that social services were involved with before hand. I asked her about the most incompetent social worker in her office, he's not had any deaths. She couldn't even think of one from her office apart from the one that they weren't involved with.

Social Workers are just one step in the chain. There are loads of people involved. Mum had a paediatrician and a GP discuss between themselves a mothers Munchausen's and decide it would be against patient confidentiality to share this information. And as they say, a chain is only as strong as the weakest link, when you have doctors doing that the chain breaks. When everyone does everything right but the best barrister is defending the parents, the parents go home. Sometimes it could be a judge who decides not to break up a family because they've done a course on the right to a family life. Not excusing SWers because there are some incompetent ones, I'm showing where else it can fall down. But what happens when it comes out? The social worker gets the stick.

I am feeling better today

[headbang] I've just had a wall message saying pretty much the same thing! I've been out of hospital less than 12 hours, why is it when I'm really stressed I have to log on to something that should be a bit of fun to this?

I had TEXT messages over the weekend about it!
Flipping TEXTS.

I feel like making a group on FB "If you want to really help prevent child abuse and not just sit around talking about how the parents/ social services all deserve to die..." Then I'll make the group to be all about how you can help living children and prevent it from happening without incitement! The description will say anybody who is seen to be inciting violence will be called a troll and banned.

Anyone want to join me?

OFGS.
The latest some 'friend' has posted a picture of baby p's mum asking everyone to put it on their profile!!

There was a graphic picture on my friends groups lists again today! It's getting crazy.

Wanna join me in making a group for people who really want to know how to help?

Sure.
I queried the item she posted but she deleted my comment, wonder why

I went absolutely ballistic at everyone on my Bebo who had anything groups, pictures or whatever on their profilesand d eleted half my groups and friends list . Just can't be arsed with them.

I went through all their pages and left a message saying

'I will not be part of your lists until you start to wake up and realise that trying to cause riots won't help anyone, when you find some bloody sense mail me and I will show you what you can actually do ti help that is of course if you are actually interested and not just wanting to jump on the 'Im upset' bandwagon'

So far have had 8 PM's back asking what we can do

Well, the girl who posted the item deleted my first comment, but I made another asking why she deleted it, telling her what she was doing was incitement of violence and that the best way to help children like Peter was NOT to post pictures of him and his mother, I alo mentioned how the backlash from the witch hunt will just result in children that don't need to be put in care, being put in care because social worker et al won't dare leave them at home incase it happens again, and how stretched the care system already is.
She has removed her posted items

Wooh for VS

Well done VS! And mamadiva

When I'm back at home I'll make a group up, anyone else who wants to join me can have a look at the MN group and add me. I know a few ways people can help but I'm sure I don't know enough!

Victoriansqualor I've had the same picture too! I just ignore it, it's horrible nasty vigilante stuff.

Took superwall and funwall off my profile because of all the nasty stuff I was getting sent.

TBM YANBU AT ALL

I've finally gotten around to making that group. It's just basic at the moment so that I could set it up. Please join and help me out with it.

Bumping for you