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to think calling a boys nipples freckles is a bit odd?

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sweetkitty · 11/11/2008 12:24

So I'm at toddlers today and DD3 was really gurny so was feeding her whilst talking to one of the Mums, DD2 (2.10mo) wanders over and says "DD3 are you having a good boob!" Other Mum looks at her as if she is mad, she said her 3yo DS asked what his were and she told him they were freckles!

I said my two DDs are always walking about with Dollies up their tops feeding them and yesterday DD1 saw a picture of a BFing baby on a posters in the health centre and shouted out "Mum that baby is having a boob too" she was horrified at this.

I said I would rather my DDs know exactly what boobs are and what they are for, she was also horrified that DD1 had asked how DD3 was going to get out my tummy and I had told her that all girls have a special passage that stretches to allow babies to come out.

And don't even get me started on the strange looks I was getting from two Grans......

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alicet · 11/11/2008 12:34

I think this is a bit of a strange explanation from her to her boys but in fairness boys nipples are not there for the same reason so I don't think you can extrapolate from this that they won't know what female breasts are for

cheesesarnie · 11/11/2008 12:43

every parent is different.some more comfy with thr truth earlier on than others.

also it could a word the little boy decided he wanted to use instead of nipples.iyswim.

nickytwotimes · 11/11/2008 12:44

YAnbu.
I hate this kind of nonsense.
Jeezo, it's a fecking Nipple, it's being used to feed a child.

sweetkitty · 11/11/2008 12:44

alicet - I have already had that one too - why does Daddy have little boobs, is to to feed the baby too?

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spinspinsugar · 11/11/2008 12:51

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AMumInScotland · 11/11/2008 12:53

They're nipples, not freckles. But I also think they're breasts, not boobs...

alicet · 11/11/2008 12:55

I wish thats what Daddy's ones were for sweetkitty !

mayorquimby · 11/11/2008 12:58

funniest thread title i've seen.
just the a sentence i never expected to see.
yanbu

TinkerBellesMum · 11/11/2008 13:00

I'm with you, children need to learn about and be comfortable with their bodies. I think it comes into the same area as bottles/ dummies for baby dolls and Bratz, both are teaching children the wrong things about body image. A lot of my body image and confidence as a woman and a mother came from actually succeeding with breastfeeding, before then I didn't think I could do it and didn't have so much importance on it in my own life (this is not a dig at anyone else, it's about me and how I felt). I didn't even realise how little confidence I had in myself until I gained some more! Mum doesn't understand why I don't want bottles or Bratz for Tink, she thinks I'm unfair and she will want them when she has friends with them but I want her to have a different outlook to what I did and confidence in her body.

Sorry I think that's a rant that has been coming for awhile

sweetkitty · 11/11/2008 13:09

TBM - I agree with you but it's so difficult if Baby Born comes with a bottle for instance. I have told the DDs that some babies have milk from their Mummies boobs, some from bottles. They also see DD3 getting EBM from Daddy or SIL. I actually think it's lovely when they are sitting BFing their dollies.

I completely agree about Bratz, however, DD1 has some. She asked for them for her birthday and got some as presents, I can't take them off her but they are horrendous

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Bluebutterfly · 11/11/2008 13:12

When ds (3.10)wanted to know how baby's got out of a mummy's tummy I just said "the baby comes out of the birth canal". He asked, "where is that?" and I said "between the mummy's legs".

If he had pressed further I would have told him that they came out of the vagina. I really do not understand what sort of "damage" a child is going to suffer from knowing the truth? As it was, ds was perfectly satisfied with the answer and it has not come up again since. I will probably have to have this discussion again soon, because I am 12 weeks pg and will be telling him soon (when I really start to show).

It seems so Victorian to be prudish about body parts and functions! Freckles? I take it her ds doesn't have any REAL freckles to compare nipples with?

sweetkitty · 11/11/2008 13:13

My mother told me she found me under a cabbage one day in the garden, I mean how warped is that?

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TinkerBellesMum · 11/11/2008 13:19

I've said no dolls with integral bottles. I've bought her dolls and thrown the bottle, but I don't want her to have integral ones for two reasons, i. I don't want to put up with the noise and ii. I will throw the bottle so if it's integral it will just ruin the doll.

I didn't give her bottles (she had top ups from a syringe) and I plan to give this one even less. She will happily breastfeed her dolls from the fake breast I made on my peer support course but she won't feed them herself.

I also don't like weaning sets, but she didn't need them, she just force feeds her dolls yoghurt! She is so un-AP, you wouldn't believe she's my child!

Bluebutterfly · 11/11/2008 13:24

My mum was very good about this, actually, she told me how baby's were made when I demanded to know when I was 3. She used the terms penis and vagina and explained about grown up's "special cuddles". She was born in the early 1940's and I think that she was quite forward thinking to be so up front with her children; not really the norm for her generation. It did me no harm at all, in fact I look back at my childhood and think that I was incredibly "innocent" despite having received this information. The only good thing was that I didn't listen to the rubbish other small children talked about sex in the playground (and I probably informed a few shocked children of the "truth", too) Still, no harm done. Also, I don't know whether it is relevant or not, but I never succumbed to the teenage pressure to have sex early. I lost my virginity, very happily in a nice relationship, at the age of 18 (sorry if tmi!). I will always try to be as upfront with my ds as my own mother was with me about these things!

sweetkitty · 11/11/2008 13:25

What do you say when you are out and about and see babies being fed from bottles? Will she ask "why is that baby not having a boob/breast etc"? my two have before cue more funny looks (suppose it's other peoples problems)

Mine have dolls with bottles but never use them their dolls must be avid breastfeeders.

As for weaning their dolls get soup made from large buttons

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Upwind · 11/11/2008 13:31

I can imagine the following conversation on a beach next summer

Kindly friend/relative: you are starting to get freckles on your nose, and there, on your shoulders too...

3yo boy: Terrified tantrum as he imagines he will soon be covered in nipples

alicet · 11/11/2008 13:37

pmsl upwind!

RaspberryBlower · 11/11/2008 13:39

Lol at 'having a good boob?' I vividly remember my mum talking about penises and vaginas, but I didn't have a scooby what she was on about! It must have sunk in at some point though. I didn't have sex very young either, but I've never seen a connection Bluebutterfly?

grumblingirl · 11/11/2008 14:01

I was being a bit evasive with DS1 about how exactly DS2 was going to come out when I was pg (I was throwing up at the time so had other things on my mind). I just said they come out of a special hole that mummies have and he came out with 'Oh yes Mummy, I remember coming out of there when I was born, into a big white light'. He was 3. It really freaked me out to say the least.

TinkerBellesMum · 11/11/2008 14:08

She's actually bottle fed her cousin (I have a lovely picture if I can ever get it on my PC I'll put it on my profile). I just want to bring her up that breast is normal and let her see that not everyone does. I've trained to be a peer supporter and want to do something a bit better so I'll tell her that some people don't get that sort of help and that's why I want to help people. Right now I just want to implant positive images in her mind then I'll back it up as she gets old enough to understand.

Makes me laugh that my family keep saying "Barbie doesn't dress much better" Barbie's not a slut in a rock band! She wears normal clothes and has normal jobs, sometimes she dresses like a fairy, but hey, don't all little girls want to be fairies? What's wrong with that? (says Tinker Belle's Mum!)

Sorry, I'm ranting again.

QueenofAllWildThings · 11/11/2008 15:06

My son calls his 'noobies'... I think he's got a bit confused between boobies and nipples! Freckles is weird though, as they are NOT freckles and if the child ever meets anyone who does have freckles, he will think that they have nipples all over their face!

cheesesarnie · 11/11/2008 16:00

takes the breastfeeding v bottlefeeding debate on to whole new level.

Bluebutterfly · 11/11/2008 16:17

Well Raspberry, all that I meant was that (to use a well known cliche) information is power. Many people believe that education (including early, age-appropriate sex education) has the impact of increasing the age of first sexual experience in teenagers (cited most often is Holland, where homelife and school education is very open about sex and relationships and they have the highest age of loss of virginity in Europe.) All I really meant was that the experience that I had of very early, correct and open information about sex from my mother reflected that in the sense that I did not feel pressured to have sex young, even though I did have a couple of boyfriends in my teenage years.

morningpaper · 13/11/2008 10:41

lol @ "having a good boob"

your DD2 sounds really sweet

glaskhamhasoneintheoven · 13/11/2008 10:51

My DS (nearly 4) calls his 'my little boobies' and DD (2.7yo) already keeps telling me that when she's a big girl like mummy she'll have 'big boobies so she can feed her babies'...

We are making them both aware that soon when DC3 arrives mummy will be feeding the baby from her boobies, DD remembers BFing (dont know how but she does, and i stopped at 12mths) and DS remembers seeing me BF DD... both will sit with a baby at their nipple saying their baby is having lunch.

DS called his own nipples his boobies after asking what mine were when i was BFing DD. I wont tell him otherwise until he's a little older maybe.

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