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In thinking that there is no excuse for someone of age 20 not to know what day it is today?

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HRHSaintMamazon · 09/11/2008 11:28

my status on Facebook reads "michelle is thanking all those who gave their lives and those still offering to do so"

i thought it would be fairly obvious what that meant.

but i just got a message from a friend, admitedly she is young - 20.
saying "i'll give mine, but what for"

Now this is nothing against this particular person as i love her dearly and im sure she just had a fuzzy five minutes.
but it got me thinking that there is a great amount of respect missing from society nowdays.

I think it may have something to do with teh fact that the "yoof of today" aren't taught about the sacrifices made in generations past.
that they just don't understand how privileged they are and how different their lives could have been.

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TrinityWino · 09/11/2008 12:46

I thought it was 11th of november

why is everyone doing it today

Blandmum · 09/11/2008 12:48

because it is remembrance Sunday. the day of the ceremony at the cenotaph in London. This has been going on for decades.

Blandmum · 09/11/2008 12:50

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Sunday

littleducks · 09/11/2008 12:54

There has been some confusion in recent years, as Arrmistice Day on 11/11 has been more publicised, and i think for the past few years Rememberance Sunday has been the following Sunday (as that has been the closest Sunday) so she may have it in her head that Rememberance Sunday follows 11/11 iykwim

it prob will click later and she will be a bit

ThePregnantHedgeWitch · 09/11/2008 12:58

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Blandmum · 09/11/2008 13:06

Other than the thousands of people that gather in London at the Cenotaph. and the many men and women who served their country who march. And the representatives of all faiths, and politicians and representatives of the commonweath.

But other than that it is obviously just a church issue

ThePregnantHedgeWitch · 09/11/2008 13:15

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Blandmum · 09/11/2008 13:22

Yes I did know that.

I mark both of them. It doesn't seem much to ask. 4 minutes in a year

and I'll put next months salery on the fact that the girl in the OP would be oblivious to both

ThePregnantHedgeWitch · 09/11/2008 13:31

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HRHSaintMamazon · 09/11/2008 13:32

i left a note for the person in question explaining that today ws remebrance sunday. she repleid with an "oh yeah"
hopefully it was justa mix up over the date.

My two youngest brothers and sister spent the morning marching through town and laying a wreath at the memorial. they are sea cadets and do so each year.
If we only had these services on the 11th they would be at school and unable to attend.

It is perfectly understandable to remember on a day that would cause as little disruption as possible and allow as many people to participate as possible.

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nappyzonehasastroppytoddler · 09/11/2008 13:39

I too always think of 11/11 and work and likes all remmeber for 2 mins on the 11th. I dint know it was remmerbence sunday todya .

Blandmum · 09/11/2008 13:42

My dh died in June and he was a veteran of both gulf wars and Afghanistan (as an RAF pilot)

He was involved in the local RSs and also various flypasts, dropping poppies etc.
They are both very important days for us.

My form is doing the rememberance day assembly and have been too bloody lazy to do anything which has made me very . they told me they are all working too hard on their GCSE which made me . I asked them if they felt they had caught the Torch as mentioned in In Flanders Fields. I think that I shamed them into doing something in the end. We'll have to see how it goes

UnquietDad · 09/11/2008 13:43

I don't see what it has to do with the church. When I was growing up we were always aware of Remembrance Sunday. In recent years there has been a push to get the two minutes' silence noted on the actual date of the 11th as well, but this is no excuse for not knowing about Remembrance Sunday.

UnquietDad · 09/11/2008 13:44

Do you tell them about your DH, martianbishop?

ChippyMinton · 09/11/2008 13:47

As far back as I can remember, Remembrance Sunday was the day for ceremony. Am I correct in thinking it was 1994 (50 yrs after WWII) when 11/11 became a more widespread time to mark the occasion as well?

cheshirekitty · 09/11/2008 13:47

They had a 2 minute silence in the Trafford Centre (shopping centre). Most people observed it, but a few (have to say middle aged people) just ignored it, carried on chatting and walking about.

I was remembering the men on the nimrod that crashed in Afghanistan. My husband taught the pilot air to air refuelling, and a few of the men were my dh friends.

Is it too much to ask for 2 minutes silence to remember the war dead?

Blandmum · 09/11/2008 13:48

If they ask and I'm feeling 'up to it'

I do think that it helps them to understand that the 16,000 who have died in active service since WW2 ended are all real people with real families. Some of them understand a little better because they have family in active service

the numbers are too big for them, I think.

Technically I'm a war widow, but I'm not really. To look at the faces of all those young people today makes me realise that DH and I had it so very easy in comparison.

Blandmum · 09/11/2008 13:51

The worst case of chatting that I have ever seen was that of a woman who talked through the 2 minutes silence, while ostensibly being at a local service that DH and I were at a local memorial.

I had words with her at the end, her behavour was shocking

HRHSaintMamazon · 09/11/2008 13:53

Oh that really irritates me.
even if you personally dont feel it necessary to mark the event at least have the deceny to shut the fark up while others do.

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Blandmum · 09/11/2008 13:56

The mind blowing thing was that she had chosen to go to the memorial! Why stand there and just chat? If you are not interested, just don't go.

Niecie · 09/11/2008 14:03

Rememberance Sunday has always been a much bigger thing to commemorate in my life time. I can remember the first time we had a 2 minute silence at work so that must have been in the 90's.

To my mind, it makes sense to keep it to a Sunday so that more people can attend rememberance events. Also, 11/11 is an important day for the 1st World War but less so in relation to other conflicts so chosing a Sunday rather the 11th means at other conflicts can be viewed as equally important.

Anyway, I don't see how anybody can have forgotten it is Rememberance Sunday today - there have been programmes about it all week on the tv.

ChippyMinton · 09/11/2008 14:07

From the Royal British Legion website:

The Royal British Legion has always supported the traditional Remembrance Sunday services and the customary Two Minute Silence on that day. As the national custodian of Remembrance, the Legion also believes that when 11th November (Armistice Day) falls on days other than Sundays - on working days - Remembrance should be brought into the everyday life of the nation on those days as well.

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