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To think I should be able to have a council house?

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frustratedmumof3 · 22/10/2008 20:18

Ho hum - must stop my addiction to MN as will not have time from next week so my cunning plan is to piss off as many people as possible so I will be frightened to come on here .

So, my local council are building lots of lovely new council or housing association (don't care what they are) homes in my area with brand spanking new kitchens, bathrooms, lovely new carpets etc, etc and I am thinking why should the so-called vulnerable members of society (who are most probably going to wreck the places) be higher on the housing list than us.

We rent privately (since we sold our house 2 years ago as could not afford the mortgage) and I don't see that we will ever be able to afford another house. We pay well over a grand for a 3 bed (3DCs) and have the insecurity of potentially having to move every 6 months at the owners whim which is the worst thing (have already moved 3 times since started renting).

It really makes me mad that quite a few of DCs friends have council houses where they pay only 350 per month and probably earn similar wages to us (the ones that work that is). What makes them deserve one more than us? I know damn well that we will not get one of the new homes as there are about 5000 people in the queue before us and they will probably go to single parents, immigrants and and generally useless members of society who do not work and have no intention of doing so. We pay our taxes and would appreciate any help we were given (as we need it now) but will get sweet FA. Makes me want to scream!! This thread may be unusual as I am not dissing council house tenants as I desperately want to be one (in a new build anyway).

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Liffey · 22/10/2008 21:44

Frustrated Mum of 3, you don't grasp the difference between real need and real greed. In your case, begrudgery, and it's kind of ugly honey.

If you're so intelligent, do the maths and figure out I can earn enough to singlehandedly run a household and pay for childcare.......

Don't be too smug or your husband will leave you for a 25 yr old (man) when you're least expecting it..

FAQ · 22/10/2008 21:46

indeed orange - I'm the process of filling out the rather long and tedious housing form - as a back-up in case I don't find somewhere (not sure the OP quite has the intellect to fill it in actually......) - and I've been advised that I will be somewhere down near the bottom of the list.....until I AM actually homeless.......then they'll probably put me and the DS's up in a "hotel" (well it's called a hotel but it's used for homeless people waiting for a proper council place) which is notorious for being a drugs haven (just the sort of environment I want to stay in with 3 young DS's......)........then I will eventually get place "somewhere"

More like than not that offer would be back on the estate where we (well exH) had a Swastika painted on the front of his car, our wheely bin was deliberately set fire to (the day we'd finished putting our new garden fence and shed up.....), I suffered verbal abuse from passers by and where DS1 was bullied by neighbours children - he still has a scar on his tummy from an "accident" caused by one of them.

So yeah - it's a really great option - get yourself on that list F3

Peachy · 22/10/2008 21:47

Quattro they weren't desined to be rationed in this way- that's partly at least as a result of decreased stock

Its not unfair though that there is a safety net; besides if the councils were paying housing benefit for private for all their tenants we would see our council tax rocket! And it would be even harder for people to access specialist disabled housing etc

not that all council tenants claim HB obv- I know my aprents never have done

SparklyGothKat · 22/10/2008 21:52

Oh the same person who earns 60k and can't afford xmas... what a fucking surprise!!! Get over yourself, you jealous twat!!

SparklyGothKat · 22/10/2008 21:52

Oh the same person who earns 60k and can't afford xmas... what a fucking surprise!!! Get over yourself, you jealous twat!!

Liffey · 22/10/2008 21:56

If op earns 60 k a year then she should be able to afford to get back on the ladder. Maybe she's not very clever at budgeting.

SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 22/10/2008 21:57

Liffey it would appear she is not very clever fullstop.

lol @ vice. Poor men must have more money than sense.

FAQ · 22/10/2008 21:57

ahh liffey she has to pay £12k a year in rent, plus her childcare costs - and petrol as well you see

SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 22/10/2008 21:59

And she's skint? Bloody hell how much does petrol cost these days? Are they making it from gold dust now? And who is her cm? Supernanny?

StayFrostyShiversDownMySpine · 22/10/2008 22:00

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FAQ · 22/10/2008 22:03

StayFrosty - no not exactly - it was someone else that started the thread (but in the end it just turned out she was struggling like so many others and was venting her frustration - wasn't actually the attack that it initially looked like it was - and the last I saw of the thread she was looking into some of the suggestions that people had given to help her).

However the OP of this thread also appeared on there - with the same opinions as on this one (the OP of other thread whilst sound scathing of those on low incomes/benefits getting Wii's didn't launch such a massive deliberate attack as this OP has)

StayFrostyShiversDownMySpine · 22/10/2008 22:12

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FAQ · 22/10/2008 22:14

god I've just re-read my last post - if you've got light seeping through from that jumbled nonsense I salute you

Tryharder · 22/10/2008 22:17

Am a bit shocked by the language and vitriol on here even if you don't agree with the poster!!!

I am a single parent - DP lives abroad, has no visa to work here, I support my children by myself on a average salary. I was the owner of a studio flat (with a mortgage) - was told by council when I asked that I could whistle for a council house because i already owned a property(even though it was too small and unsuitable for a child)

I was advised by someone in the know that I could deliberately make myself homeless and that I would have to spend time in a B&B. But didn't want to go down that route so bought an ex-council house!

It is a little bit hard though, when I have just had to shell out 5 grand which i really, really could not afford on damp proofing and repointing (water coming into house through brickwork) when the drug addict tenants 3 doors down have had a new roof put on their house and all repairs done free of charge. I can sort of sympathise with the OP - I dont think I am any less deserving of help than the said tenants but that's the way it seems to be sometimes!

IllegallyBrunette · 22/10/2008 22:20

You think you are in need of a council house, but only if it is a new build ???

That is actually quite funny and shows just how deluded you must be.

If you were really in need of a council or ha house, then you would except any reasonable house offered.

You can't go on the list just to wait for a new build you know, it doesn't work like that.

ScottishMummy · 22/10/2008 22:20

am more shocked you see FMO3 POV and think she has been given a hard time.oh diddums poor FMO3

Nighbynight · 22/10/2008 22:20

but maybe the drug addicts did the B&B thing that you didnt want to do?

I have just read the OP so I can guess what sort of things other people have posted. As a single parent I am clearly one of those "generally useless members of society" referred to by fmo3, so will jsut say YABM(onstrously)U.

StayFrostyShiversDownMySpine · 22/10/2008 22:26

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FAQ · 22/10/2008 22:30

Tryharder - I tell you what - we'll swap - you come and live in this house and live my life (and do all the house move crap - destination as yet unknown) and I'll go and live your life in your studio flat - (yes with all 3 of my DS's)....

You didn't want to end up in a B&B - but you had a CHOICE as to whether to end up there or not.......many people don't have that choice.

Tryharder · 22/10/2008 22:39

Stayfrosty, I don't resent anyone really - as you said, there are benefits to being an owner occupier. But when DS1 was a baby the chance of a council house would have been really useful!

But 3 years down the line, I'm doing alright so maybe it was all for the best.

My real point is that the OP has the right to state her opinion however unpopular without being subjected to a load of obscenities.

And btw, the drug addict tenants do have choices - they could choose not to take drugs, could choose to get a job rather than be unemployed....

2shoesdrippingwithblood · 22/10/2008 22:43

strange how all these people don't wnat to swap lives. we got out HA house after a year on the list.
all you need is a severely disabled child who will never walk, you get ringht to the top of the tree.

FAQ · 22/10/2008 22:45

but Tryharder you had the option of buying a house. Many people will NEVER get that option - regardless of how hard they work.

StewieGriffinsMom · 22/10/2008 22:45

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FAQ · 22/10/2008 22:49

But TryHarder - if you find me a job that will leave me no worse off than I already am (I can't afford to live on any less......) then I will quite willingly take it......

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